Slavoj Žižek - any good?

[butchersapron]

Noel Coward for idiots.

 

[fractionMan]

I hold your hand in mine dear

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Hardly the same....
www.privatehand.com/flash/elements.html

 

[Fruitloop]

Noel Coward for idiots.

At least that's a novel criticism of Zizek.

 

[butchersapron]

At least that's a novel criticism of Zizek.

And totally meaningless

 

[gorski]

1) Pointless accusation.

2) The point isn't novelty but the truth, to the extent that such a thing can be defined. Anyway, Zizek popularises this kind of stuff, I thought that was what you wanted.

1) That depends on expectations, I guess...

2) Sure, the truth. Just other people's truth. So, I read the original, thanx!

Popularising? OK, not bad in itself. Depending on the ideas popularised and the manner of popularisation, I s'ppose...

 

[Fruitloop]

Well, I can see why you don't like the content - too much Lacan for you maybe? The project to 'bugger Hegel with Lacan?

Can't see a problem with the method though - much better than most other 'public intellectuals' I would have thought. And he engages in actual political activity too!

 

[gorski]

Oh, yah, babyyy, plus missing a good dollop of Habermas and co... Not to mention a healthy squeeze of his wife.. Brrrmmm...

 

[gorski]

http://parodycentrum.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/dr-zizek-in-the-guardian/

Readers, I am a little jealous of dr. Slovenly Zizek because his Slovenlian gorilla looks stole the heart of my favorite American primate scientist, the magnanimous Dr. Jodianne Fossey.
The interview provides us with an excellent opportunity to witness how Dr. Zizek’s circus act rests on the deeply ingrained Puritanism of his Anglo-Saxonic audiences. Every second line is a sexy provocation which gets the nerdy attendees of the Gothic academia to blush and chuckle. (”What is your earliest memory? My mother naked. Disgusting. What was your most embarrassing moment? Standing naked in front of a woman before making love. How often do you have sex? It depends what one means by sex. If it’s the usual masturbation with a living partner, I try not to have it at all.”) These statements all derive from Lacanian psychoanalysis, but I don’t think Lacan ever meant for them to be used as jingles, readers.
Among the highlights of the interview are dr. Zizek’s honest admission that he is a selfish and nihilistic slob (”What is the trait you most deplore in yourself? -Indifference to the plights of others”); his embrace of Austro-Hungarian fascist cultural product (”What is your guiltiest pleasure? - Watching embarrassingly pathetic movies such as The Sound Of Music”) and the doctor’s opportunistic embrace of his Commie origins as Josip Broz Tito’s lapdog (”Tell us a secret. Communism will win.”)

Quite!

 

[articul8]

Oh, yah, babyyy, plus missing a good dollop of Habermas and co... Not to mention a healthy squeeze of his wife.. Brrrmmm...

Habermas cops out by replacing psychoanalysis with behaviourism - it's why he has no adequate theory of conflct, or imagination.

(Butchers will hate this coming from me) but Castoriadis is a necessary corrective.

 

[gorski]

Or Praxis Philosophers! Rudi Supek's study of Imagination is a must [Serbo-Croat, hehe], for instance. Reich is quite instructive, too..

 

[articul8]

Reich - Instructive, yes - how to lose the plot entirely

 

[gorski]

Not with the early Reich!

 

[kopelgep]

http://parodycentrum.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/dr-zizek-in-the-guardian/




Quite!

Christ, Dejan (the guy who runs that site) is a bit of a mentalist. Amusing, but obsessed with slating Zizek. Zizek's chief problem is notbeing terribly systematic really- but his stuff on Hegel is interesting, though incredibly heterodox...

 

[goldenecitrone]

Pervert's guide to Cinema is very funny. Zizek is a monster, as he himself quite rightly states. But a highly amusing one. Definitely my favourite Slovene.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

My favourite Slovene is Ivana Kobilca

 

[gorski]

Christ, Dejan (the guy who runs that site) is a bit of a mentalist. Amusing, but obsessed with slating Zizek. Zizek's chief problem is notbeing terribly systematic really- but his stuff on Hegel is interesting, though incredibly heterodox...

I still have to meet a psychologist/psychoanalyst who's sane...

 

[articul8]

Oi - you've met me

 

[Refused as fuck]

Pointless accusation.

The point isn't novelty but the truth, to the extent that such a thing can be defined. Anyway, Zizek popularises this kind of stuff, I thought that was what you wanted.

I don't know what I want. I thought that was the point.

 

[gorski]

Oi - you've met me

Aaaahhh, but you're not a practising one, aren't ya?

See, there's hope for psychologists, hehe...

 

[revol68]

zizek's a good lad, mad as a hatter with awful concrete politics (think of a more ironic EuroCommunism) but his theory and social commentry are excellent, especially when he's kicking the shit out of multiculturalism, relativism and liberalism.

and yes communism will win...

 

[CharlieAddict]

zizek's a good lad, mad as a hatter with awful concrete politics (think of a more ironic EuroCommunism) but his theory and social commentry are excellent, especially when he's kicking the shit out of multiculturalism, relativism and liberalism.

and yes communism will win...

i'm not a fan of 'forced' multiculturalism either.
but what does he say?

 

[gorski]

Power is everything!

 

[Dillinger4]

zizek's a good lad, mad as a hatter with awful concrete politics (think of a more ironic EuroCommunism) but his theory and social commentry are excellent, especially when he's kicking the shit out of multiculturalism, relativism and liberalism.

and yes communism will win...

I agree with this.

 

[Fruitloop]

I still have to meet a psychologist/psychoanalyst who's sane...

That;s because the reason people go into those careers is 'cos they're trying to work out what's wrong with them

 

[gorski]

That's the usual joke, yeah...

Then, they joked with "us" that we go to study Philosophy because we don't know how to think...

A8 is in an unenviable situation, having done both...

 

[Karamazov#1]

I've only read a couple of his works but generally I find much clearer than most of the post modern theorists. A good work to start with is Violence which was released earlier this year. His analysis of systemic violence makes it well worth the read. And he slaughters a whole herd of liberal sacred cows which is always fun to read.

 

[butchersapron]

That's the usual joke, yeah...

Then, they joked with "us" that we go to study Philosophy because we don't know how to think...

A8 is in an unenviable situation, having done both...

Both what gorksi?

 

[Dillinger4]

I've only read a couple of his works but generally I find much clearer than most of the post modern theorists. A good work to start with is Violence which was released earlier this year. His analysis of systemic violence makes it well worth the read. And he slaughters a whole herd of liberal sacred cows which is always fun to read.

He isn't a post-modern theorist.

 

[Karamazov#1]

That's the point I was trying to make. He's a lot easier to read than the post modernists.