Slash from GnR's Autobiography

[Kid_Eternity]

Getting this book!

 

[colacubes]

I getcha but I never liked Motley Crue Always thought GnR were teh

Me too - G'n'R were big when I was just getting into music and them and Faith no More were my idols

I couldn't recognise a single Motley Crue song if you were playing me their back-catalogue, but it's still a much better book. Slash's is very good but The Dirt is teh win

 

[5t3IIa]

So, got it, enjoying it a lot.

Though I'm not sure whether I am terribly jaded or Slash just wasn't hardcore enough as it's not *very* shocking. Is it in The Dirt that the chaps are so wasted that they forget they can just drink Jim Beam so they bang it up instead?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I read it on my holiday, I enjoyed it, but it's nowhere near as funny / out there as The Dirt

 

[g force]

Agreed..The Dirt was all about balls out deprived Rock n' Roll and the stories are just

The Slash book is less so but certainly interesting to see how the band fell apart so badly from the inside. I'm not sure that Slash was never "hardcore" but i actually like that unlike someone such as that fuckspud from RHCP he didn't bang on about how very sorry he was after doing crack etc.

 

[5t3IIa]

Agreed..The Dirt was all about balls out deprived Rock n' Roll and the stories are just

The Slash book is less so but certainly interesting to see how the band fell apart so badly from the inside. I'm not sure that Slash was never "hardcore" but i actually like that unlike someone such as that fuckspud from RHCP he didn't bang on about how very sorry he was after doing crack etc.

Never apolgise,never explain!

The band breaking up stuff is interesting. They burned pretty brightly for a shortish period and it seems like it might've been Axl's fault that they burned out. I haven't actually got to that bit yet tbh.

Now, I'm not keen on this modern preocupation with labelling but surely Axl must have aspergers or something? He's a loon.

 

[chazegee]

Just read it, very good, but, what everyone else said, not as good as the Dirt.

This may be because the Guns took their music more seriously than the Crue, and put less energy into injecting Jim Beam.

I think Axl turned into a power crazy King Lear figure with the fame, acted like a twat, but that's some of the majesty of it, surely a better rock and roll story then turning into a highly functional corporate machine like the Stones?

Slash just turned too drink and drugs, and it rendered him fairly harmless.

Chinese Democracy will be shit though.

 

[g force]

But still Slash credits him with being an amazing singer and songwriter...it's all the crap during Use Your Illusion and the legal stuff that's interesting about this book. You really feel like Slash felt he had to leave or else he'd end up doing something he'd regret.

Yes Chinese Democracy will be terrible

 

[elevendayempire]

Er, what I've heard of Chinese Democracy is actually pretty good. Surprisingly enough.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Is it ever actually going to be released though?

 

[elevendayempire]

The band breaking up stuff is interesting. They burned pretty brightly for a shortish period and it seems like it might've been Axl's fault that they burned out. I haven't actually got to that bit yet tbh.

Now, I'm not keen on this modern preocupation with labelling but surely Axl must have aspergers or something? He's a loon.

Abused as a kid, apparently. Which resulted in a near-pathological need for control over all aspects of his life. Then there's the fact that Izzy and Slash thought they were in an Aerosmith-style rock band, while Axl borrowed the trappings of a rock band but actually wanted to do terribly portentious, multilayered piano ballads like Queen or Elton John - plus the pressure-cooker atmosphere of enormous amounts of drugs and excess... Well, it was a miracle the band survived as long as it did.

 

[elevendayempire]

Is it ever actually going to be released though?

Fuck knows. The latest news is that it's been finished and handed over to the label, and they're dicking around with it for god knows what reason. But tbh I wouldn't trust Axl to tell me the sky was blue, by this stage.

I know someone - they work on a music mag - who's listened to a finished version of the album that was ready for release a few years ago, and they reckon it's "fucking fantastic". Make of that what you will.

Anyway, there are various mixes of about seven or eight tracks knocking around on the internets, which at least proves Axl hasn't been sitting on his arse for 15 years.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Don't suppose you've any links for those tracks?

 

[g force]

I want to hear it out of interest because - as you read in the Slash book - all the string work on Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 was actually all Axl at a synth layering each element over an over It could end up being great...or totally overblown rock opera crap!

 

[skyscraper101]

The fact that only Axl and 'Dizzy' Reed are the only old members of this band doesn't fill me with much confidence. Plus the tracks they've been playing out live aren't really all that.

He will NEVER top Appetite. And Guns isn't Guns without Slash, Duff and Izzy. Period.

 

[g force]

Not many rock albums can top Appetite.

March 26th is the latest release. Maybe.

 

[secretsquirrel]

Agree with others that the Anthony Kiedis book was shite - couldn't read past the first couple of hundred pages.

I got both the Slash book and Nikki Sixx 'Heroin Diaries' for Xmas. Polished off the Nikki Sixx booked in a day - perfect companion to 'The Dirt'. It features his diary entries from the most extreme period of his drug use annotated by himself and others from today's perspective. Jesus, he was fucked up! Days of sitting in his closest with only his shotgun for company injecting speedballs.

Slash's seemed tame in comparison - but then even Pete Doherty's drug use would seem fairly low level next to Nikki! It was interesting to read one after the other to see where their timelines intersected. Overall, I came away from it really quite liking him. Despite being inevitably self indulgent in places, he did his level best NOT to completely trash Axl and repeat that the events were from his POV and Axl might have a completely different interpretation. I can imagine being stuck with a bunch of cainers when you're a control freak who wants to make multilayered music would drive anyone to distraction!

Oh, and I've now got a bit of a crush on Nikki Sixx. Even those he's nearly 50!

 

[AverageJoe]

He will NEVER top Appetite. And Guns isn't Guns without Slash, Duff and Izzy. Period.

Nope - thats Velvet revolver

 

[skyscraper101]

Nope - thats Velvet revolver

Guns N Roses Lite.

(much as I appreciate the Axl-free rack n roll all the same)

 

[5t3IIa]

Agree with others that the Anthony Kiedis book was shite - couldn't read past the first couple of hundred pages.

I got both the Slash book and Nikki Sixx 'Heroin Diaries' for Xmas. Polished off the Nikki Sixx booked in a day - perfect companion to 'The Dirt'. It features his diary entries from the most extreme period of his drug use annotated by himself and others from today's perspective. Jesus, he was fucked up! Days of sitting in his closest with only his shotgun for company injecting speedballs.

Slash's seemed tame in comparison - but then even Pete Doherty's drug use would seem fairly low level next to Nikki! It was interesting to read one after the other to see where their timelines intersected. Overall, I came away from it really quite liking him. Despite being inevitably self indulgent in places, he did his level best NOT to completely trash Axl and repeat that the events were from his POV and Axl might have a completely different interpretation. I can imagine being stuck with a bunch of cainers when you're a control freak who wants to make multilayered music would drive anyone to distraction!

Oh, and I've now got a bit of a crush on Nikki Sixx. Even those he's nearly 50!

I like this one:

Phwaor, wot a wrong 'un

 

[secretsquirrel]

That's Tommy Lee. He ain't bad either. Always comes across as a dopey - but generally affable - puppy. With a massive cock.

THIS is Nikki Sixx...

He looks dirty. In a good way.

 

[secretsquirrel]

Although I'm not sure I'd have gone for him in his 80s heydey...

 

[5t3IIa]

Teehee!

I've seen (on telly ) Tommy Lee set off a boat horn with his cock

 

[cybershot]

March 26th is the latest release. Maybe.

Wasn't that the date they spurted out last year as well?

Every new year they say 'it will be this year' and it never is.

Saw Guns on their last UK tour about 18 months ago, and it was quality. Axl still has the voice, and Izzy even performed a few songs on stage as a 'special guest' So i guess that means those two are getting along again.

If anyone can bring them back together it would be Izzy, but I don't see it happening, not at least until they all start to dry up on the music front and a massive amount of dosh for a reunion tour is layed own on the table.

 

[g force]

But as Slash said why would he, duff and matt bother when they're doing sell-out global tours in their new band? Can't see it ever happening - I think Axl burned too many bridges with them over the royalties, use of band name etc for them to go back.

 

[elevendayempire]

But as Slash said why would he, duff and matt bother when they're doing sell-out global tours in their new band? Can't see it ever happening - I think Axl burned too many bridges with them over the royalties, use of band name etc for them to go back.

They're selling out the Hammersmith Apollo. A reunited GN'R could do massive Stones-style stadium tours. That said, it'd never be the original GN'R; Steven Adler's a wreck now, and Izzy doesn't really like touring. That said, I'd love to see Slash sharing a stage with Axl's new rhythm guitarist Richard Fortus:


Who even looks like Izzy, weirdly enough.

 

[saucisson]

I preferred slashs biog to the dirt - more human somehow and I thought Slash is basically a nice guy with very little ego.
and I prefer VR to guns as could never stand axls whine...looking forward to seeing them rock brixton in March come on \m/

 

[cybershot]

I thought VR's second album was awful. Tempted to go and see them as they are doing smaller venues, but that second album is holding me back. Then again, mayne it will sound better live?

 

[chazegee]

In Slash's auto, he said that him Duff and Izzy wrote about 11 songs before Izzy left and Velvet Revolver formed, perhaps if they dug those tunes out and got Axl singing, things could go again...

The Slash thing told me, most importantly, that Appetite really was a group effort, they all had a hand in the writing, in fact, just because Addler's face is half paralysed, that doesn't mean he still can't tear those drum skins...

Anyway, I'm a Gn'R fan to the death, as you can tell

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Got this as a pressie for xmas, although it's in queue behind House of Saud, House of Bush and Making Money (Terry Pratchett)...