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Skinnyman at Redstar 13th Jan

sus said:
that's good to hear - maybe i just hear about the muggings etc - there used to be a few squat parties on every saturday without fail, with the crews involved properly looking after things and dealing with any trouble through strength of numbers - it seems like a few years back some crews came on the scene that weren't interested in keeping it safe, just in getting wasted themselves and cashing in- bristol was always avinit, and much more tight knit than than the london scene - brighton too- glad to hear it's al cool in the west again
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The main reason I try to have nothing to do with it anymore...:(

I got totally fed up finding myself trying to deal with trouble,most times on what felt like on my own. That`s why we aligned to other similiar crews who had good security policies but still the feckin` idiots would get in and spoil it for the rest. In the end I would find myself sorting out problems all night and get home angry and confused! Sometimes |I wouldn`t even get to play toons or enjoy my mates sets. Time to stop...

Did one party last month which thankfully I could just sit back and do nothing at....felt great! But that was the first in a year.....

Soz to hear about the trouble sat nite......

.p.
 
That's why I love Unsound so much. The wanker quota is extremely low. I just got fed up of having to watch my back at squat parties. I was finding myself edgy and not able to let go and enjoy myself.
 
LD Rudeboy said:
That's why I love Unsound so much. The wanker quota is extremely low. I just got fed up of having to watch my back at squat parties. I was finding myself edgy and not able to let go and enjoy myself.
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Same here. Unsound feels safe, I can't handle the big squat parties because I just end up unable to relax and worried.
 
aurora green said:
I'm really suprised to hear rumours that it turned bad, particularly as we didn't even leave till right at the end...
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I'm with this reaction, I'm very sceptical about this, and I was there til pretty much the end as well.
 
William of Walworth said:
I'm with this reaction, I'm very sceptical about this, and I was there til pretty much the end as well.
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Well, I saw someone covered in blood, having to be carried to a sofa, or are you calling me a liar? :rolleyes:
 
per said:
Well, I saw someone covered in blood, having to be carried to a sofa, or are you calling me a liar? :rolleyes:
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No way man!! :eek: Just didn't see it, and everything looked pretty chilled to me, and to a few other mates, upstairs and down ... what you describe sounds horrendous if so .... :( :(

Not usually like that down there at all ... and I get there pretty frequently, being a local chillout for me, like.
 
sus said:
...you still saying?...................
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I'm not saying anything.

You know what, I don't even care anymore.
I've apologised to you privately, and now publicly. I can't turn back time.

I didn't bring any of this up, YOU did.

You think everyone is planning and plotting against you, then your ego and paranoia have got in the way of rationality.
I bumped into Dublin Joe at the Redstar on Saturday. How does that fit in with your organised boycott fantasy?

You have always been a controversial figure, and manys the time in the past I've backed you up. I don't even want to go into why I reacted like I did to the news you and Paul had fallen out, not on here, and there's proberbly no point.

It's a shame we couldn't move beyond this, but at the end of the day you and I'll both survive just fine.
 
AG - Sus. This is really upsetting for those of us who like you both a lot. and i do really think it needs to happen in PMs :(
 
aurora green said:
You think everyone is planning and plotting against you, then your ego and paranoia have got in the way of rationality.
I bumped into Dublin Joe at the Redstar on Saturday. How does that fit in with your organised boycott fantasy?

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yeah i'm such an egoist aren't i - so paranoid
it's not a fantasy believe me - or if you choose not to you could ask bevan, vikki, tony, marrianne or several others - the place was boycotted- we had the punky reggae party with nucleus roots playing 2 days later to about 40 people, the previous months punky reggae had about 250 there - - Joe actually bothered to come and see me within a couple of days to ask me what had gone on - you don't think that everyoe does or believes exactly what paul tells them to believe do you- joe might be pauls mate, but he also is capable of thinking for himself - and how beat up was paul looking when you saw him after the event - and maybe you could answer the question about why i was at the spike in the first place - did paul bother to mention to you that it was to help our mates move out after he'd stopped them getting their own stuff the day before - blocking the drive, cutting off their leccy and changing the locks - i'm not doing this to have a go at you - i'm doing it cos i'm sick of being lied about - did you know paul expected to be running the redstar with us for some reason - when i came back from italy before we started on the redstar i was at the spike, with phil, deadlocks' brother telling me that they'd only be involved if it was run as a co-op, jd telling me that he wanted to look after the hostel upstairs to run as a brothel, and paul telling me that he wanted to store his bits and pieces iykwim there. the real reason that he was so pissed off with me is cos i decided to run it the way i've always managed my life - alone -- have you bothered to ask caz why i was suddenly barred from the spike - like i said before apparantly i'm a thief - fuck knows what i'm supposed to have stolen - mind you she also told hazel that i'm a woman hater and a homophobe - by the way i wasn't talking about your blog being unforgivable, but the fact that paul and caz are lying about me with the intention of destroying my credibilty - as far as i'm concerned all the people that have gone for this boycott can fuck right off - they're too prejudiced and stupid to come to unsound anyway - why don't you ask bev what story paul told him - and vikki too - she was told that i'd hit him from behind with an iron bar -nice one - have you got the integrity to actually discover the truth here - i don't actually give a fuck about the boycott thing - but i do care about my personal character assassination - or is that just more paranoia -- find out the truth - i dare you - see what sort of people you have chosen as friends
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i'm sorry dub, WoW and whoever else finds this distasteful, but like i said before, if these kind of lies were publically going around about you, wouldn't you want the truth to be bought out into the open
 
sus said:
i'm sorry dub, WoW and whoever else finds this distasteful, but like i said before, if these kind of lies were publically going around about you, wouldn't you want the truth to be bought out into the open
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I know, it's just upsetting that's all.
 
mate i know that - it was my eldest daughter Scarlett that showed me Aurora's blog after googling "unsound parties" - that was pretty upsetting too
 
AG and sus, as you both know, I've done my limited best recently to try and help sort this -- from what very limited position/knowledge I have, but as someone who gets on with/is friends with both of you.

Dub's right -- PMs, or better, direct communication (at some stage! when that becomes possible!) are the only way to sort this out.

It's all really saddening and distressing to read/hear :( :(
 
aint nothing getting sorted by a bunch of words on a bulletin board guys. try face to face, saving on interference from others....
 
William of Walworth said:
It's all really saddening and distressing to read/hear :( :(
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I'd agree with that.

I had a fuckin wicked time on saturday night (your absense was not L and R!!) and seeing Aurora there (as well as you William ;) ) was lovely!

I hope you two can sort this out. Put the past behind you?

It's not nice when you care about peeps and they're fighting :(

zenie xx

(Not posting anymore!!)
 
sus said:
...Scarlett that showed me Aurora's blog after googling "unsound parties" - that was pretty upsetting
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aurora green said:
...I've apologised to you privately, and now publicly. I can't turn back time.
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I'm going to try leave this thread now.
Apologies to everyone who was upset by it.


btw. Great to see you out zenie, dont be a stranger.
 
i'm not after apologies - i want the truth to come out - so you saw paul 2 or 3 days after i was supposed to have "ambushed" him and beaten him up - so once again i ask you ,did he actually tell you why i was really there and did he look like he'd been beaten or not - it doesn't look like you wanna answer any of my questions to you -
 
Leave it off public sus please .... you'll both eventually end up sorting this out (somehow! but see my post above) but that doesn't look like it'll be too soon and it will be even less soon (IMO) if all this keeps being posted up here :( :(

Please, think about it and try and see sense .... :(
 
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