RenegadeDog said:
Taxamo, can you really class indie/grungey type places in with the real wayne and sharon type clubs?
I used to go to the Dome, and the Feet First night, in the early 90s and that was seen as pretty alternative then.
yes i'd heard this... I think what changed was the perception of what indy/alternative was. Whilst in the early 90's it was popular but still cool and leftfield, by the mid 90's nu metal and related epiphenomena had taken over in the younger gen. They were immense fun but utterly uncool and worthless. an 'alternative' night has to define itself by what is popular but isn't quite pop/what has a powerful following. In musical coherence terms it was ridiculous mix, but then thats what the x fm play list is like
Whilst Indy proper remained nothing to do with nu metal and green day (whose popularity has now increased to a kind of post-genre, metallica style respect

), metal was what the kids wanted.
That was changing as we left and whatb they'd probs play now is loads of brit rock like the libs razorlight etc.
Compared to britpop and the current indie wave, nu metal was in some ways more genuine cos a lot of it never receieved any airplay (earlier on), whereas brit pop and brit retro rock are totally contrived NME fests.
Its cool to be uncool and hated by the NME. Go for it emo kids
Oh on the drugs front: it had nothing to do with the music and everything to do with the age of the kids, which was very low. Ectasy was reaching its all time highest levels of consumption (before falling and being well eclipsed by coke, way beyond our pocket money) and all time lowest ages consuming it at the time. Those in the know made a killing
'proper' rockers and people over 25 were always utterly disgusted by the teen scene clubs i describe when they turned up, if that illustrates the change.