Situation in Mexico getting worse?

[chilango]

If it was a legalised industry the cocaine would be transported directly from the Andes to America and wouldn't transit Mexico at all. It would also be in the hands of large corporations - like coffee for example.

If it was legalised why would gangsters get involved in the industry any more than in coffee growing/processing/distribution?

The gangsters/politicians/rich capitalists/state are pretty much interchangeable in Mexico as are their footsoldiers. You think the maquiladores for example are less gangsterish?

 

[phildwyer]

The gangsters/politicians/rich capitalists/state are pretty much interchangeable in Mexico as are their footsoldiers. You think the maquiladores for example are less gangsterish?

Quite. The war in the north is a crazy free-for-all between various factions of police and military, some in uniform, some not, some retired, some not, some local, some federales. The Zetas are the scariest, you see them lurking around the bars in Nuevo Laredo in their cowboy hats and dirty jeans, never speaking, looking miserable as the putas tout for their attention. I'd sooner cross the ski-mask wearing soldiers than those guys.

 

[_float_]

The gangsters/politicians/rich capitalists/state are pretty much interchangeable in Mexico as are their footsoldiers. You think the maquiladores for example are less gangsterish?

But cocaine comes from the Andes. If it was legalised it would be shipped directly to America and not go via Mexico. The corporations that would handle its production and distribution would be similar to ones that handled coffee or alcohol.

You said "If a legalised industry, it would still be in the hands of gangsters" but why would anyone *need* to be a gangster and what benefit would it bring to their 'export-from-peru-import-to-california' business, except to get them into lots of trouble? How would the business involve Mexico and Mexicans?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The gangsters/politicians/rich capitalists/state are pretty much interchangeable in Mexico as are their footsoldiers. You think the maquiladores for example are less gangsterish?

I knew a lady who worked for a maquiladora. They had an interesting variation on the paid vacation. She paid her boss off in cash and bottles of booze so she's be allowed a couple weeks off.

 

[phildwyer]

Apparently "Mexico could face sudden and rapid collapse..."

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

5 Heads in a Duffel Bag:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/10/mexico.heads/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Anyone else thinking that the news has been unusually surreal of late?

 

[dilute micro]

This is what you get when you don't clean house. Mexico shoulda way back when. I think we're going to end up wishing that wall had been built. Makes a lot of sense trying to play pattycake with a country that's headed for the ditch.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This is what you get when you don't clean house. Mexico shoulda way back when. I think we're going to end up wishing that wall had been built. Makes a lot of sense trying to play pattycake with a country that's headed for the ditch.

Funny, that's exactly what most Mexicans I know say about the Gringos to the north.

 

[dilute micro]

Yeah well next time I get pulled over I'll slip the state trooper $20 and see what happens. The US is without a doubt headed for it's own ditch but so is Europe. If the Mexicans want to build a wall to keep the illegal gringos out it's fine by me.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Yeah well next time I get pulled over I'll slip the state trooper $20 and see what happens. The US is without a doubt headed for it's own ditch but so is Europe. If the Mexicans want to build a wall to keep the illegal gringos out it's fine by me.

Been my experience that State Troopers are after cheap sex instead of money.

You just arn't going to be able to buy a US cop for only $20. They have standards, you know.

 

[_float_]

If the Mexicans want to build a wall to keep the illegal gringos out it's fine by me.

They have certainly been asking America to do something about the illegal *weaponry* coming southwards across the border.

It's also American drugs consumers who are ultimately at the root of the Mexican drugs wars, so ideally America should start thinking a bit more laterally about that as well.

 

[dilute micro]

Been my experience that State Troopers are after cheap sex instead of money.

You just arn't going to be able to buy a US cop for only $20. They have standards, you know.

Well I wouldn't know about either when it involves the law or anything else illegal. I can only speak for this part of the country where the population is more than 2 per square mile.

 

[dilute micro]

It's also American drugs consumers who are ultimately at the root of the Mexican drugs wars, so ideally America should start thinking a bit more laterally about that as well.

If just say no doesn't work should the US go into the drug business to undercut the Mexican cartels?

 

[_float_]

Legalisation? Yes, it is a very good idea.

 

[Jessiedog]

Legalisation? Yes, it is a very good idea.

Indeed.


It's prohibition that is ultimately at the root of the Mexican drugs wars, not the American drugs consumers. Without prohibition, there would be no "drugs wars".



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