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Sinead O'Connor's letter to Miley Cyrus

Kizmet

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Kizmet did. But he didn't. It was all a sexy dream in my head apparently. And I think that says something about me actually.
Sinead is closer to my age and my type. :)

Look, I'm a 41 year old man with two daughters who watched and laughed at hundreds of episodes of Miley's tv show. Then all of a sudden shes doing raunchy things on mtv. It would be perfectly normal and honest for me to have lots of different and contradictory thoughts and then settle on an opinion that I am comfortable with. A man of 21 who never saw the tv shows may not have quite so many contradictory thoughts.

Posting about these contradictions is not easy... it would be far easier to pretend to be absolutely right-on and all the while be thinking something completely different... firky, anyone? But its not honest.

What I think is perfectly normal for a man of my age and experiences. Whats weird is how quickly some people want to disrupt that kind of honesty with hasty accusations.
 

Sweet FA

✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
Comedy genius :D

Thank you for your perfectly normal honesty. Can I have a normal beer for my friend because he's normal please?
 

Wookey

Muppet is not a slur
amanda palmer's response is a bit TL/DR, but i reckon she nails it fairly well. she's pretty good on this stuff though (if less on others).
I loved her response, can't believe she wrote all that on a mobile phone?!

I'm a huge Sinead fan, always have been. I was kind of on her side until I read the Amanda Palmer response, and that struck a deep chord within me, and so I have changed my mind. I think Miley (I have no idea who she is to be fair, other than the daughter of a pop star I never liked and the product of a show I never watched and the maker of records I don't listen to) has responded in a rather childish way, but then she is young and might not have the vocab or life wisdom of your O' Connors and your Palmers (who is married to Neil Gaiman by the way, which makes her fucking so cool).

Anyway, all in all, a good and worthwhile debate, so fair enough to all sides.
 

Kizmet

Well-Known Member
(probs best leave it, mind. or we'll get another three pages of increasingly improbably justifications)

You think its improbable that a guy could watch telly with his daughters and have a normal opinion?

Ah.. no. You think its just improbable for me.

Okay... I guess I shall just have to accept that I am not perfect... unlike the people passing their judgement. :p
 

Cheesypoof

Fuck off Noddy
Banned
It's self-congratulatory wank, tbf.
lol...its a bit affected i agree. I prefer a more cheery kind of take on Molly Malone by the Dubliners or somethin.....but Sinead makes a great stab at most songs. I really love this recent song (and she's looking radiant in the video :))

 

Cheesypoof

Fuck off Noddy
Banned
i also love Sinead's fierce pride in being....Irish. I feel exactly the same way: if you are Irish, be proud of being pale, dont speak or sing in an accent that isnt Irish, just be yourself and most importantly, fuck em.:cool:
 

ViolentPanda

Hardly getting over it.
i also love Sinead's fierce pride in being....Irish. I feel exactly the same way: if you are Irish, be proud of being pale, dont speak or sing in an accent that isnt Irish, just be yourself and most importantly, fuck em.:cool:
personally, I've always liked the fact that she completely cunted off The Edge, after recording "Heroine" for the soundtrack of "Captive" (a not very good film) with him. She could have played on that, but she chose to speak her mind about him being a twat instead. :D
 

Cheesypoof

Fuck off Noddy
Banned
personally, I've always liked the fact that she completely cunted off The Edge, after recording "Heroine" for the soundtrack of "Captive" (a not very good film) with him. She could have played on that, but she chose to speak her mind about him being a twat instead. :D
yeh, it was like really early in her career too i think. There is just one biography on Sinead O Connor (to my knowledge) and it is from 1991. Well worth reading, and it shows how she never compromised.
 

butcher

boner at the ready
Seems to me Miley Cyrus is just cynically exploiting blokes and Tom Sinead O'Connor is cynically exploiting Miley Cyrus, surely if she was that concerned a personal letter or phone call might have been more suitable than a nice publicity grabbing 'open letter'.

I see she is on tour at the moment.


They ought to just bone each other, publicly.
 

Cheesypoof

Fuck off Noddy
Banned
Good post here from someone that follows this Guardian article

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/03/sinead-oconnor-miley-cyrus

'Sinead O'Connor has a big heart and is a woman of integrity. I like her a lot. And no doubt in reaching out to Miley, she probably sees a young 'hothead' who is similar to her. But she's not.

Miley has nothing to say bar a continuous loop of 'look at me look at me'. She is a shrewd young woman who has been in the game long enough to emerge as a gimlet-eyed player.

When the heat gets too much - she will (as she's already done) play the victim card. And when the novelty wears off and people move on to something else, it's only then that she'll "recall" how "used" she felt. She can use her age to declare "naiveity" but everything she's done has been carefully plotted.

Sinead's sympathy is wasted.'
 

Kid_Eternity

"You might be a lord but here comes the king."
It's really none of her business what Miley Cyrus gets up to so why she felt the need to write that letter and make it public I have no idea.
Perhaps she's got an album out and thought "Now this an easy way to remind the world how controversial I can be!"...
 

Addy

cooking...
Just another publicity move though isn't it?
As already pointed out, she has had a very successful career as a child, she has potential to make success in the pop world, why do something now you may regret in later life?

I think that was the message that Sinead was trying to get across.
 
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