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Sick of rightwing attitudes to workplace rights, pay, security etc

Is there such a thing as a job for life any more?

No, there's not. There used to be up until the late 80s/early 90s, but then some management guru (on the back of that recession) invented restructuring. Now all of that worked short term for employers, and then - once the recession had receded - they suddenly found that loyalty had gone and faced the costs associated with a maintaining a workforce that had become largely itinerant. Baby out with the bathwater. And so labour turnover figures and exit interviews became the new order of the day.

But that wasn't my point. Just because you've been able to just leave and find something else easily, doesn't mean that everyone can.
 
But idiots like Gabi and STFC seem perfectly happy about it. If it's good enough for them then it's good enough for everyone.

I'd love to know what they do for a living. :D

Presumably they've been fortunate enough to have the education and/or skills to make finding jobs relatively easy - and assume that everyone else has the same.
 
But idiots like Gabi and STFC seem perfectly happy about it. If it's good enough for them then it's good enough for everyone.

I'd love to know what they do for a living. :D

Idiots eh? Is that supposed to make me more understanding of your situation?

I'm more than happy to tell you what I do for a living: I work in insurance. It's not that glamorous or exciting but I get to travel quite a bit and the pay's not bad.
 
But sometimes it can contribute to the attitudes that poster342002 is complaining about?

I don't think so. I think that's more upbringing.

As said in the other thread, I work in one of the wankiest places possible but no-one here really has the attitudes mentioned in the OP.
 
I don't think so. I think that's more upbringing.

As said in the other thread, I work in one of the wankiest places possible but no-one here really has the attitudes mentioned in the OP.

I think upbringing as much to do with it as well. Upbringing contributes to levels of education and skill.

You're lucky if your workplace doesn't have those attitudes, but there are many that do. I completely disagree with poster342002's 90% figure though.
 
You're lucky if your workplace doesn't have those attitudes, but there are many that do. I completely disagree with poster342002's 90% figure though.

Oh definitely. Loads of places.

But I'm just pleasantly suprised that a company you'd expect it more in, doesn't have it.
 
Oh definitely. Loads of places.

But I'm just pleasantly suprised that a company you'd expect it more in, doesn't have it.

Yep. Funny though, I've found that many of the smaller trading firms have a friendly laid back atmosphere contrasting with the big ones.
 
Just now I've been treated to some twat at the next table banging on about how Maggie would sort these strikers out, but on the other hand, when I went to the shop yesterday, the bloke said "I see the strikes are on then... well, if they're not going to do the redundancies properly what do they expect" "yeah good luck to them I say, a few more people doing this the country would be in a much better state" "yes indeed".

My experience, too. I've been surprised by the number of comments I've heard, in favour but my own colleagues are refusing to strike because they think they may be one of the few to keep their jobs.
 
What is it with people who insist that the "answer" to any remaining group of workers that are still able to strike and defend their rights is to remove those rights and force them down to a "lowest common denominator" level of zero pay-rises, zero job security and zero rights?

Why do these berks not, instead, insist that the answer is to join together and fight to increase their own workers' rights to those at least sligthly higher than that of a dog's?

I'm so sick of hearing people say "I don't get a pay rise or job security - so neither should anyone else" instead of them saying "if they can fight and retain their payrise etc, we should do the same".

And why do these rightwing idiots seemingly comprise of 90% of the population these days?

because they have no sense of honour or respect for fellow man. I worked with several crawlers at Asda and the decent few of us just took the piss out of em constantly. They are beyond help. Even when they're made redundant by the bosses they LOVE they will probably STILL think it's fair....
 
Comment heard in said pub

"Bloody Crow. He likes to put it up'em. Fair play to the union they dont mess around with the government.I'm all for it. Thats why Im voting Tory......."


There's some seriously fucked up people about. Should people like this have the vote? I mean my 11 year old knows more about politics than people like this...
 
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