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Donna Ferentes said:
On the matter of your Latin grammar. Unfortunately, you cannot get around the fact that your tagline is simply wrong. It's not even a debate like global warming, where the vast majority of opinion is against you. You're wrong, because you ignore the rules by which the language works. It's quite amusing to watch you do this, since it demonstrates that your sole interest is in never admitting you're wrong, but it is nevertheless lamentable.

You just don't get it: the Latin grammar has to match the English if he's to stay in character. Are you trying to spoil the illusion? Incidentally, there is a black man shouting "you're the one that *said* it" over and over again outside my window, I suppose I'd better go and see if he's talking to me.
 
foreigner said:
Who knows how many billions of species and ecosystems it would have spewed out by then...

WTF do you care, erurope has a negative population growth and your population is aging rapidly as well, so you only have about ten years to change things around and save yourselves form extinction.

Good luck

In the year 2000, the total population of the Europe will reach its peak accounting for 729.3 million, of whom 306.6 million in Eastern Europe, 93.7 million in North Europe. 144.8 in Southern Europe, and 184 million in Western Europe. The annual rate of population growth in Europe declined from 0.44% to 0.16% between 1985-1990 and 1990-l995 and is projected to reduce to 0.03% during 1995-2000. After the year 2000, annual rate of total population growth will be negative and continue to decline from -0.08% during 2000-05 to -0.24 during 2020-25.

The population decline trend is merged with the increase in the average age of the population. The proportion of population in 65+ age group is increasing from 11.9% in 1985 to 19.8% in 2025, but the proportion of population in 0-14 age group is decreasing from 21.3% to 16.3% during the same period. Extraordinary decreasing of the child-juvenile population group is seen in Southern and Western Europe. For Southern Europe the size of this age group was estimated of 21.9% in 1985 and projected to be only 13.8% in 2025. In Western Europe the proportion of population in 0-14 age group is declining from 18.3% in 1985 to 15.3% in 2025.

http://www.unhabitat.org/habrdd/trends/europe.html

Why the heck i argue about long term problems with people who have no long term future is beyond me. :p :D

http://www.unhabitat.org/habrdd/trends/europe.html

And this should help you put it in persepective.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GH02Aa01.html

Here's the problem: To maintain a steady population in any country, its birthrate must be 2.1 children per woman. (That provides one child to replace each parent, plus an extra fraction to replace children who die and to compensate for the slightly smaller number of female than male births.) Today the birthrate in Western Europe is an average 1.5% - 30% below replacement. In Japan it's 1.46%. The birthrates in Italy and Spain are 1.2%, which means in these two countries the population will be nearly halved in every generation. Moreover, because we now are living longer than ever, in countries with a low birthrate the population rapidly ages.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FL07Aa01.html

See that part about your population being halved in every generation?

How many generations do you think you will be around, with or without global warming?
 
Ah, a loony piece by somebody calling themselves "Spengler" arguing that we're being outbred by the Uncivilised Ones. How jolly.

Again, pbman, you do need to have some ability to weigh up evidence. You don't demonstrate a point simply by finding somebody who agrees with you are pasting it. All you demonstrate is that you can use Google and the Ctrl functions.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Ah, a loony piece by somebody calling themselves "Spengler" arguing that we're being outbred by the Uncivilised Ones. How jolly.
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Spengler loony?

Do try and get out more. :rolleyes:

In any event, the numbers he used are public record, detail in many other places, including the other link i used. :rolleyes:

The fact remains that you are almost absolutly guaranteed not to have a future with such a low birth rate.

So leave the long term problem to thouse of us who are going to be here.

They are are problems.

Not yours.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Anyway, to cut to the chase, pbman, what's the genitive form of the Latin word for "Gaul"?

lol Your +++++++ the pedantic librarian arn't you?

Why worry about latin, you have no future.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465050506/002-5089200-4328022?v=glance

Since you don't like spengler their's a book written by a liberal saying the same thing.

< pbman, do NOT use people's real names in posts please. There has been a name change because of work issues. Respect that please, the rules are clear. Mrs M>
 
pbman said:
WTF do you care, erurope has a negative population growth and your population is aging rapidly as well, so you only have about ten years to change things around and save yourselves form extinction.

Good luck



http://www.unhabitat.org/habrdd/trends/europe.html

Why the heck i argue about long term problems with people who have no long term future is beyond me. :p :D

http://www.unhabitat.org/habrdd/trends/europe.html

And this should help you put it in persepective.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GH02Aa01.html



http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FL07Aa01.html

See that part about your population being halved in every generation?

How many generations do you think you will be around, with or without global warming?
What the FUCK do a load of looneychoons links about Europe's falling birthrate have to do with your not knowing your way round Latin?
 
Red Jezza said:
what the FUCK do a lopad of loonetchoons links about Europe's falling birthrate have to do with your not knowing your way round Latin?
Some way up the thread I observed that pbman's tagline was illiterate. He was unwise enough to dispute this.

This does have the virtue of demonstrating that:

1. he makes it up as he goes along
2. he's incapable of admitting it when he's caught out.

Nevertheless, by backing him into a corner we may yet achieve 2, and perhaps, in that way, begin to work on 1.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
You don't know, do you?

lol, ARE you admiting you were wrong about your blather that ceasar wasn't a good speaker?

Cicero is said to have written "Do you know any man who, even if he has concentrated on the art of oratory to the exclusion of all else, can speak better than Caesar" Or anyone who makes so many witty remarks? Or whose vocabulary is so varied and yet so exact?"

Run run run away..............
 
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aye. If he had to put his hands up every time he made an arse of himself, he wouldn't have time for anything else!
So do enlighten us all, peabrain; what does Europe's hypothetically stagnant population levels have to do with global warming and the possible consequences of the Siberian thaw? :rolleyes:
 
If you were following, pbman, you'd have noticed that I already responded to that point. Do check.

Now, please, either the genitive of the nominative forms of the word for "Gaul". If you please.

pbman said:
Nice weaseling. :p
Christ knows what that's all about.
 
Red Jezza said:
aye. If he had to put his hands up every time he made an arse of himslef, he wouldn't have time for anything else!
So do enlighten us all, peabrain; what does Europe's hypothetically stagnant population levels have to do with global warming and the possible consequences of the Siberian thaw? :rolleyes:

It means its not your problem.

You will not be here.

If you actually had children in significant numbers,worrying about their future would make sense.

You don't and it doesn't.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
If you were following, pbman, you'd have noticed that I already responded to that point. Do check.

Now, please, either the genitive of the nominative forms of the word for "Gaul". If you please.

Christ knows what that's all about.

Your chainging the subject from the silly statment you made earlier that ceasar wasn't a good speaker.

Clearly he was.
 
pbman said:
It means its not your problem.

You will not be here.

If you actually had children in significant numbers,worrying about their future would make sense.

You don't and it doesn't.
Hehe :D
 
Red Jezza said:
What the FUCK do a load of looneychoons links about Europe's falling birthrate have to do with your not knowing your way round Latin?

About as much as latin has to do with global warming. :rolleyes:
 
pbman said:
Your chainging the subject from the silly statment you made earlier that ceasar wasn't a good speaker.

Clearly he was.
Clearly, you've failed to cite a single speech of his in support of that proposition.

Equally clearly, you're trying to change the subject from the fact that you don't, in fact, know the correct Latin for your tagline. I suspect you're trying to buy time to look it up via Google. Would you like me to show you some suitable sites?
 
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