Siarad Cymraeg Siarad Cymraeg

[ddraig]

wel helo, shw'd mae'n mynd?
dyma lle i ni trafod yn yr hen iaith a gobeithio fod e'n tynnu pobol newydd i'r bwrdd ar forwm hon
ac yn lle i dysgwyr dechrau ac i ddysgu mwy.

beth sydd i trafod heddiw te?
fallai alla ni ddechrau gyda ble rwyt t'in dod yn Nghymru?


well hello, how's it going?
here is a place that we can discuss in the old language and hopefully it will bring in some new people to the board and this forum.
and a place where learners can sart and learn more.

what is there to discuss today then?
perhaps we can start with where you are from in Wales?


(as always please excuse my rusty/shoddy Welsh, hopefully this will improve it)

 

[phildwyer]

Rydw'in byw yn y ty mawr a'r bryn coch. Mae Myfanwy yn mynd i'r siop. Sut rydych chi heddiw? Da iawn diolch.

Sorry that's all you'll get out of me.

 

[Dai Sheep]

Dw'in dod o Dyllgoed a'r Caerdydd ac dw'in dysgu cymraeg.

 

[davesgcr]

Rydw i wedi colli y pen sudd yn belongo i fy modryb .....

 

[Aldebaran]

looking for...


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[niclas]

OK, serious question - would someone who'd studied Welsh to GCSE level (as all kids now do in Wales) be able to understand the simple sentences above?

I can only relate to my French O Level (I'm old), and I reckon I'd understand most of the above sentences if they were in French.

 

[Gavin Bl]

Remembering back 20+ years, I think I would have understood most of that when doing O Level Welsh (ah yes, a welsh person studying welsh in a schoool in wales - with of course, welsh constituting a 'foreign' language ).

Mae Mott yn y fasged

Mott is in the basket

Remember that?

 

[Gavin Bl]

Dw i eisiau cwpan, felly dw i'n fynd nawr

I want a cuppa, so I'm going now....

 

[phildwyer]

Rydw i'n hoffi coffi.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

OK, serious question - would someone who'd studied Welsh to GCSE level (as all kids now do in Wales) be able to understand the simple sentences above?

I can only relate to my French O Level (I'm old), and I reckon I'd understand most of the above sentences if they were in French.

If their teacher was any good.
I only learned welsh from 11-13 but I can understand whats above and I had an absolutely dire welsh teacher, we spent all our time trying to do as little as possible, most people dropped it the second they were allowed ( we had to do a language, most opted for french, german or spanish)
I understand far more french though and I did it to GCSE

 

[neprimerimye]

OK, serious question - would someone who'd studied Welsh to GCSE level (as all kids now do in Wales) be able to understand the simple sentences above?

No.

For the good reason that after leaving school Welsh is of no relevance and people prefer to speak their own langauge not yours.

 

[lizzieloo]

Rydw'in byw yn y ty mawr a'r bryn coch. Mae Myfanwy yn mynd i'r siop. Sut rydych chi heddiw? Da iawn diolch.

I ' am being to live crookedly the he covers large I ' go group he buys red. He is being Myfanwy going I ' group shop. Manner you are being you today? Good right thank

Dw'in dod o Dyllgoed a'r Caerdydd ac dw'in dysgu cymraeg.

Dw'in come he Dyllgoed I ' go group Cardiff and dw'in learn Welsh

Rydw i wedi colli y pen sudd yn belongo i fy modryb .....

I am being I has lost the head juice crookedly belongo I me aunt

Rydw i'n hoffi coffi.

I am being I ' heartburn like you remember




Online translators are the dogs bollocks

 

[phildwyer]

Mae gath wedi scrapo Johnny bach.

 

[flangelina]

Mae gath wedi scrapo Johnny bach.

Oi! Oi!

 

[phildwyer]

Oi! Oi!

Altogether now: Who shits on England?

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

Or the Wrexham FC version

' I hit my wife with a sospan
And she had the nerve to hit me back '

 

[Brockway]

No.

For the good reason that after leaving school Welsh is of no relevance and people prefer to speak their own langauge not yours.

Welsh is very relevant if you want a job in journalism/PR/the arts in Wales. I don't know who elected you to speak on behalf of the monoglots Nep but I've heard loads of Welsh people lament the fact that they can't speak Welsh. English is the language I speak but it's not my language - it's the language of the imperialist colonizer.

 

[Dai Sheep]

Welsh is very relevant if you want a job in journalism/PR/the arts in Wales. I don't know who elected you to speak on behalf of the monoglots Nep but I've heard loads of Welsh people lament the fact that they can't speak Welsh. English is the language I speak but it's not my language - it's the language of the imperialist colonizer.

Well said mate, couldnt have put it better myself...you beat me to it.

 

[meurig]

P'hawn da pawb. Sut mae?

 

[Belushi]

I spoke cymraeg until I was Eleven, but have been in Lloegr since and can now hardly speak a word

My famiuly are from the Dulais Valley where Welsh speakers have been in a minority for generations but the language is certainly stronger there now than when I was a nipper. In some ways Welsh Nationalism has taken over from the Socialism that used to be so strong there.

 

[Ben Bore]

I spoke cymraeg until I was Eleven, but have been in Lloegr since and can now hardly speak a word

My famiuly are from the Dulais Valley where Welsh speakers have been in a minority for generations but the language is certainly stronger there now than when I was a nipper. In some ways Welsh Nationalism has taken over from the Socialism that used to be so strong there.

You don't have to be a nationalist or a Nationalist to speak Welsh - you can even speak Welsh and be a ........socialist

You can speak Welsh and not be interested in politics

 

[Gavin Bl]

P'hawn da pawb. Sut mae?

Sut mae?! Sut mae?!

Shwmai !!*


* - Sut mae - how are you (North Wales)
- Shwmai - how are you (South Wales)

 

[meurig]

Dwi'n gwybod. Dwi'n haner gog, haner hwntw. Rydw i wedi meddwl mae e'n "Shw mae?" na "Shwmai"?

 

[neprimerimye]

Altogether now: Who shits on England?

Everybody except the Welsh.

 

[Belushi]

You don't have to be a nationalist or a Nationalist to speak Welsh - you can even speak Welsh and be a ........socialist

You can speak Welsh and not be interested in politics

There was often a hostility to the Welsh language among socialists in the valleys - at least thats my experience.

It wasnt of course true of everyone - my family were welsh apeaking stalinists.

 

[neprimerimye]

There was often a hostility to the Welsh language among socialists in the valleys - at least thats my experience.

It wasnt of course true of everyone - my family were welsh apeaking stalinists.

Hostile to socialism then......

 

[phildwyer]

Everybody except the Welsh.

Seen the Championship table recently?

 

[Belushi]

Hostile to socialism then......

'A chicken in every pot, a bullet in every trot'

 

[neprimerimye]

Seen the Championship table recently?

Championship of what?

 

[neprimerimye]

'A chicken in every pot, a bullet in every trot'

While the Stalinists were putting bullets in in 'Trots' (read communists) they failed to put a chicken in every pot hence the famine in the Ukraine.