Should veggie cafes provide a meat option?

[Hollis]

Meat eaters are not going to be fussed that their food has come in contact with a vegetable, whereas a veggie would not feel the same about meat.

Well if we revert back several pages I question how many veggies genuinly give a shite or are that concerned..

Anyway this is going round in circles now.. I accept the genuine counterargument.. i.e. that the chef/owner can do what the fuck he wants with his cafe. Dont' really accept the cross-contamination one.. And most of the other posts amount to little more than 'Fuck you/fuck off (blah, blah, blah)'.. which of course, can be applied both ways..

 

[editor]

Yet another crap analogy!! Keep trying..

Why don't folk clubs include a death metal band on the bill too for those who like that kind of thing?

These analogies are just as stupid as your 'argument', Hollis.

 

[William of Walworth]

Surely the point is that there is a meal for everyone?
Meat eaters can eat vegetarian food, the same is not so the other way round. Meat eaters are not going to be fussed that their food has come in contact with a vegetable, whereas a veggie would not feel the same about meat.

So no.

I was going to say something like that too, honest!

Mr Steev counter argues ...

(In lieu of me doing so, because it's probably best not .... )

 

[Hollis]

Why don't folk clubs include a death metal band on the bill too for those who like that kind of thing?

These analogies are just as stupid as your 'argument', Hollis.

And another crap analogy!! Tut!!

Afraid you're abit late to this thread..

 

[pilchardman]

I mean, most restaurants try to accomodate veggies now, so why not the reverse? Surely its not too much to ask for 1 meat dish on the menu?

Yes. A fish salad.

 

[William of Walworth]

Well if we revert back several pages I question how many veggies genuinly give a shite or are that concerned..

I would also question something -- how many meat eaters genuinely give a shite about a veggie restaurant not serving meat? Surely not many of those who are prepared to attend at all .... and those who won't go bcause there's no meat, will be so much happier elsewhere anyway, just as I'd be happier in an Italian/Indian/veggie restaurant than in (say) and Argentinian Gaucho steak house -- now there's where it's tough to be a veggie if you like!

I accept the genuine counterargument.. i.e. that the chef/owner can do what the fuck he wants with his cafe.

There have been some others!

Dont' really accept the cross-contamination one..

You're not a veggie though. For some veggies and certainly vegans (admittedly not all, perhaps) that factor IS important, as you've been told quite a lot, and given that it's a restaurant advertised as and existing as a veggie one, surely it's the main clientele's wishes that should be put first?

And most of the other posts amount to little more than 'Fuck you/fuck off (blah, blah, blah)'.. which of course, can be applied both ways..

I'd say far more of the posts have engaged with the argument and issues than haven't done -- maybe not engaging with them to YOUR satisfaction, but you're just playing devil's advocate anyway. So what do you expect in return?

There's been some abuse -- not just in one direction either. I rashly, and probably counterproductively, took exception earlier today to one particularly crass and (IMO) unfunny 'joke'** and got leapt on with great force in return, despite having hardly been on this thread at all, earlier.

(Mind you one of OU's comebacks was far funnier than his original jibe )

But I do think that whatever abuse there's been, has been outnumbered by posts dealing with the issues.

**The reason I was confused about whether Orang's original post was a 'joke' or not, was not because I'm 'humourless' but because I've heard just about every single variety of anti-veggie windup that's possible to exist over the last 40 odd years, and the humour does wear very thin on constant repetition ... and some of the jokers/windup merchants really do hate veggies!

 

[mr steev]

Well if we revert back several pages I question how many veggies genuinly give a shite or are that concerned..

And got the reply that most/all are concerned!
You even said yourself that you avoid cross-contamination when cooking for veggies...

My sister in law is veggie, but if she comes over when we do a BBQ she brings veggie burgers and other stuff and we set up a smaller BBQ so that her food can be cooked separately from the meat, I wouldn't expect her to eat her veggie burgers of a grill that's had meat on it. Waste of time as the meat bits would go on her stuff. It's also useful for cooking things like sweetcorn that I don't like being messed up by meat from burgers.

Yes. I/we do similar.

So you know the answer to your own question!!!

 

[Hollis]

And got the reply that most/all are concerned!
You even said yourself that you avoid cross-contamination when cooking for veggies...




So you know the answer to your own question!!!

And I believe the chef who posted on here pointed out that unless you were a complete muppet it was piss easy to avoid cross contamination in a cafe/restaurant.

 

[mr steev]

And I believe the chef who posted on here pointed out that unless you were a complete muppet it was piss easy to avoid cross contamination in a cafe/restaurant.

But it happens
I don't think I've met a veggie who hasn't at some point been served something with meat in, let alone something with animal fats in. Vegetarian cheese being a good example... most people still presume all cheese is veggie.

There's also the point that as a veggie in a 'meat-eating' resturaunt you feel singled out. It can be bit embarrassing having to ask what the ingredients of things are, or how their cooked... it would be nice to go somewhere where you can choose anything off the menu, something that meat-eaters can do all the time!

 

[ICB]

"Surely its not too much to ask for 1 meat dish on the menu?"

How's that an argument anymore than "surely it's not too much to ask for you to stop talking tripe?"?

You see that's a conclusion, presented as a question for rhetorical purposes

You want to get some premises and a bit of logic in there lad. Something along the lines of "meaties can't eat veggie or they explode" and "meaties have to eat with veggies or the meaties stop being able to talk properly".

C'mon, I've practically done it for you...

 

[Hollis]

How's that an argument anymore than "surely it's not too much to ask for you to stop talking tripe?"?

You see that's a conclusion, presented as a question for rhetorical purposes

You want to get some premises and a bit of logic in there lad. Something along the lines of "meaties can't eat veggie or they explode" and "meaties have to eat with veggies or the meaties stop being able to talk properly".

C'mon, I've practically done it for you...

yes! yes! yes! - I think most people understood ICB..

Anyway.. I'm stupid/satan/troll of the year.. whatever...

All good "content".

 

[rich!]

Surely the point is:

if meat-eaters have to eat a veggie dish, they won't satisfy their Murder Jones, and so will have to creep out in the middle of the night into some child's bedroom, tear out the poor wee childs throat with their teeth, and drink the blood.

Oh, won't someone please think of the children?

Those fiendish veggies! If their so-called *restaurants* cared about children they'd serve meat!

 

[guinnessdrinker]

ps. Grolsh is vegitarian

maybe, but it's crap.

 

[Mr Retro]

Vegetarian restaurants can't serve meat because then they would just be restaurants.

And what would be the point of that?