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Should there be a second referendum?

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I'm sure there would be significant political and social consequences to brexit being foiled, but I'm not sure rioting is one of them. Rioting is a young man's game, and the young voted remain by a large margin - all classes.
I don’t think a large proportion of the country were in Brixton or Tottenham either. You don’t need a large proportion to riot, you just need a critical mass of the disaffected.
 
But Brexit has focussed that anger, it’s given it expression. I’m not saying it’s right, or even makes total sense, but it has. The fight to leave has become the fight against the elite for a lot of people. And people are very angry.

Its not ‘gammon’ riots (if by that you mean middle age upper wc/ lower mc mail readers?) you’d have. But I think it’d be a fair swaythe of the working class. You can no longer ignore it, the anger and resentment and injustice and the years of being ignored is finding its voice.

Maybe I’m wrong. It’s just a feeling not an incisive political analysis.

No incisive analysis here either, glad that's cleared up! Genuine question: Has that feeling about what you see as w/c anger got worse over the last 48 hours or so? (I'm thinking Poundland Tommy Robinson's all over the news, obviously!) cause those clowns aside, I really don't see massive swathes of that kind of reckless ideologue about to riot in numbers. And if there were lots of w/c people to get excited about something they can't actually explain if you ask them, allowing the threat of violence to affect what we do as a society means we're already a fascist state, doesn't it??
 
I'd be amazed if there was rioting or any kind of significant unrest as a response to the event of Brexit not happening.

What there could be however is a deepening of already existing feelings of disenfranchisement which could indirectly contribute to creating the conditions for unrest further down the line.

And as killer b suggests it would sustain a constituency for a populist right party to exploit. Especially given the Left's abandonment of this constituency and it's concerns.

However neither of these scenarios are dependent upon a "Brexit Betrayal". They're both already here.
 
I don’t think a large proportion of the country were in Brixton or Tottenham either. You don’t need a large proportion to riot, you just need a critical mass of the disaffected.
this is a fair point - but either way I don't think brexit betrayed riots are likely to be a significant factor in the event of brexit being betrayed (I also don't think it's going be betrayed, though I don't think I much care either way).
 
I'm sure there would be significant political and social consequences to brexit being foiled, but I'm not sure rioting is one of them. Rioting is a young man's game, and the young voted remain by a large margin - all classes.

Everyone loves a riot though. Don't let how you voted stop you joining in! :thumbs:
 
I'd be amazed if there was rioting or any kind of significant unrest as a response to the event of Brexit not happening.

What there could be however is a deepening of already existing feelings of disenfranchisement which could indirectly contribute to creating the conditions for unrest further down the line.

And as killer b suggests it would sustain a constituency for a populist right party to exploit. Especially given the Left's abandonment of this constituency and it's concerns.

However neither of these scenarios are dependent upon a "Brexit Betrayal". They're both already here.

Think I agree with most of this, but as you say those conditions are already present. Anything has the potential to set that off.

Maybe there wouldn't be rioting as a direct response, but wait till the summer.
 
killer b said:
I'm sure there would be significant political and social consequences to brexit being foiled, but I'm not sure rioting is one of them. Rioting is a young man's game, and the young voted remain by a large margin - all classes.

You reckon
Never seen so many old people in London till i saw that so called peoples march
#anothermyth
 
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Ah ok. Well, if you mean a hard-right political party finally becoming a significant force in British parliamentary politics then I'm more or less with you.
I think the anger would find all sorts of different political expressions. Maybe rioting yeah, or more scuffles, more protest, more screaming at politicians and the police (Wookey, like Poundland TR lol), more people on the streets. Yes, the continued rise of the far right, definitely. Can already see that. I think fiddling a Remain would be the final straw for any trust in the media or the democratic process too. Im not sure what that’d mean, but it also seems to lead to the far right.

The cunts need to get Brexit done ASAP. Then they need to turn the massive spotlights of privilege, power, influence, and money, away from London and the upper middle class, and out to the rest of the country.
 
killer b said:
I'm sure there would be significant political and social consequences to brexit being foiled, but I'm not sure rioting is one of them. Rioting is a young man's game, and the young voted remain by a large margin - all classes.

You reckon
Never seen so many old people in London till i saw that so called peoples march
#anothermyth

Are you comparing a jolly march on a weekend to rioting? :D

The voting demographics are available should you wish to go look for them. ;)
 
killer b said:
I'm sure there would be significant political and social consequences to brexit being foiled, but I'm not sure rioting is one of them. Rioting is a young man's game, and the young voted remain by a large margin - all classes.

You reckon
Never seen so many old people in London till i saw that so called peoples march
#anothermyth
Did you ever come back with any proof of your claim the vast majority of remain voters have died since 23/6/16?
 
killer b said:
I'm sure there would be significant political and social consequences to brexit being foiled, but I'm not sure rioting is one of them. Rioting is a young man's game, and the young voted remain by a large margin - all classes.

You reckon
Never seen so many old people in London till i saw that so called peoples march
#anothermyth

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