should pupils be banned from taking mobile phones to school?

[MsShirlLaverne]

Yes. And?

And......... when you're school age talking to your mates and sorting your social life is really important to you, same as adults

 

[Treacle Toes]

what makes you think that?

maybe some folk just have their own opinion which is different to yours.

Don't take it that way Foo, I accept other people's opinions, no drama.

I have noticed a few obvious comments though, fishermen trying to get a bite.

 

[Treacle Toes]

In her school, disruption by mobile phone use is a pretty minimal issue.

Well I know loads of teachers who would love to work there then.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I'm not a teacher and it's just as well because if the little buggers wouldn't turn off their phones I'd likely throw them out of the window.

The phones, not the kids.

Ah so you do see the potential/actual problems then.

 

[Treacle Toes]

There's obviously an overarching problem with school discipline. .

Yes, you are right IMO.

 

[skyscraper101]

It's not that easy to suspend students.

Why isn't it? It was pretty clear cut when I was at school - beak the rules too many times and you'll be out on your ear as a major fucking punishment. Continue to flaunt the rules and you'll just be thrown out permanently.

Why is it so hard for schools to get tough with students?

 

[untethered]

Why isn't it? It was pretty clear cut when I was at school - beak the rules too many times and you'll be out on your ear as a major f- punishment. Continue to flaunt the rules and you'll just be thrown out permanently.

Why is it so hard for schools to get tough with students?

Unfortunately, schoolchildren now have "rights" - the downside of which is that they don't include the right of the majority of children to learn without being distracted from their work.

My school would happily discipline the boys for things like uniform matters even when outside school. Things are different now, sadly.

 

[danny la rouge]

Well I know loads of teachers who would love to work there then.

It isn't a remarkable school. It's a state comp, but the kids understand the rules regarding mobile phones in class.

As you pointed out, mobile phones are actually banned in gaijingirl's school, but that hasn't stopped them still being brought in and used there. So it seems to me that the issue isn't about whether to ban or not to ban.

 

[d.a.s.h]

I wouldn't allow pocket calculators, never mind mobile phones.

 

[foo]

why dash? can you explain.

 

[untethered]

Do children really need to take any private property into school whatsoever?

On arrival, children would be admitted to reception in an orderly fashion. Here they would exchange their clothes for the school uniform. Any other belongings they had brought with them would be surrendered and put into safe keeping until the end of the school day. Children would be issued with sufficient equipment (eg. stationery, sports kit) to get them through the day. Anyone found in possession of any unauthorised item would be strictly disciplined, with a second offence leading to automatic expulsion. At the end of the school day, the children's clothes and belongings would be returned.

Straightforward and easily-understandable measures like this can make all the difference between chaos and an atmosphere of co-operation and learning.

 

[danny la rouge]

On arrival, children would be admitted to reception in an orderly fashion. Here they would exchange their clothes for the school uniform.

Why do I get the impression orange boiler suits is what you have in mind?

 

[MsShirlLaverne]

Do children really need to take any private property into school whatsoever?

On arrival, children would be admitted to reception in an orderly fashion. Here they would exchange their clothes for the school uniform. Any other belongings they had brought with them would be surrendered and put into safe keeping until the end of the school day. Children would be issued with sufficient equipment (eg. stationery, sports kit) to get them through the day. Anyone found in possession of any unauthorised item would be strictly disciplined, with a second offence leading to automatic expulsion. At the end of the school day, the children's clothes and belongings would be returned.

Straightforward and easily-understandable measures like this can make all the difference between chaos and an atmosphere of co-operation and learning.

That sounds a bit like prison to me

 

[d.a.s.h]

foo: If you wear an ankle brace all the time, you'll develop a weak ankle, not a strong one. If kids use pocket calculators in place of learning multiplication tables, doing mental arithmetic, and working sums out with pencil-and-paper, then they will tend to have poor numeracy.

An acquaintance of mine has a daughter in her final year at primary school. She's a bright, chatty kid. She recently came home with a little certificate congratulating her on learning her two times table.

 

[foo]

er...what's that got to do with mobile phones in school though?

 

[foo]

On arrival, children would be admitted to reception in an orderly fashion. Here they would exchange their clothes for the school uniform. Any other belongings they had brought with them would be surrendered and put into safe keeping until the end of the school day. Children would be issued with sufficient equipment (eg. stationery, sports kit) to get them through the day. Anyone found in possession of any unauthorised item would be strictly disciplined, with a second offence leading to automatic expulsion. At the end of the school day, the children's clothes and belongings would be returned.

were you a screw in your last job?

 

[untethered]

Why do I get the impression orange boiler suits is what you have in mind?

You can say what you like about Gitmo but I'll wager that the inmates don't spend much time chatting on unauthorised mobile phones.

 

[d.a.s.h]

er...what's that got to do with mobile phones in school though?

They're both distraction-gadgets.

 

[skyscraper101]

Unfortunately, schoolchildren now have "rights" - the downside of which is that they don't include the right of the majority of children to learn without being distracted from their work.

My school would happily discipline the boys for things like uniform matters even when outside school. Things are different now, sadly.

I'd like to see a student challenge me in court for suspending them if I was a head teacher. I'd go all the way.

Fuck them and their 'challenges' too - I'd fuck them up for real if they so much as laid a finger on me in aggression. I believe students have the right to be treated as grown ups if they behave as grown ups. Therefore I'm still down with allowing mobiles in school but if anyone disrupted my class they'd be out. Period.