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Should I get rid of IE and get Firefox?

stowpirate said:
1) SeaMonkeys - Puppy Linux version of Firefox
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SeaMonkey is the new name for the Mozilla Suite..

stowpirate said:
Konqueror appears to be locked into the Knoppix Linux OS as deep as IE is into XP. :confused:
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(a) KDE is a window manager, not an O/S
(b) You can run Knoppix outside of KDE
(c) Konqueror only runs as su when asked, unlike IE which runs as su constantly
(d) You can choose which browser to replace Konqueror in KDE...

Please try and gets facts at least mostly right...!
 
jæd said:
SeaMonkey is the new name for the Mozilla Suite..



(a) KDE is a window manager, not an O/S
(b) You can run Knoppix outside of KDE
(c) Konqueror only runs as su when asked, unlike IE which runs as su constantly
(d) You can choose which browser to replace Konqueror in KDE...

Please try and gets facts at least mostly right...!
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Facts are facts and they will not disappear in a list of one liners The wise are the ones who ask the right questions? :confused:

Very few users that make the jump from XP to Linux are going to replace the default GUI. So what I been saying about Konqueror is still true.

Also you can use windows without its GUI but not as far as I know replace it. I have been a user of Linux for years and are well aware of its workings but that is not what the debate was about.

Both Linux and MS Windows are a complete shambles when you start looking under the hood :D

I would go with Firefox but I still feel that the security issue is being hyped to a point of hysteria.

Anyway with a name like Seamonkeys who could not resist using it :D
 
jæd said:
SeaMonkey is the new name for the Mozilla Suite..



(a) KDE is a window manager, not an O/S
(b) You can run Knoppix outside of KDE
(c) Konqueror only runs as su when asked, unlike IE which runs as su constantly
(d) You can choose which browser to replace Konqueror in KDE...

Please try and gets facts at least mostly right...!
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Facts are facts and they will not disappear in a list of one liners The wise are the ones who ask the right questions? :confused:

Very few users that make the jump from XP to Linux are going to replace the default GUI. So what I been saying about Konqueror is true.

Also you can use windows without its GUI but not as far as I know replace it. I have been a user of Linux for years and are well aware of its workings but that is not what the debate was about.

Both Linux and MS Windows are a complete shambles when you start looking under the hood :D

I would go with Firefox but I still feel that the security issue in IE is being hyped to the point of hysteria by MS haters.

Anyway with a name like Seamonkeys who could not resist using it :D
 
Jaed's points (a) to (d) are spot on.

Look, no-one's expected to know everything. If there is something you are not clear about or would like to understand more fully, there are plenty of people here will take the time and trouble to guide you and others through the FUD and confusion that blights the personal computer scene. All you have to do is ask :)

At the moment, I'm sorry to say, your confident but counter-factual assertions are tending to intensify, not dispel, the FUD and confusion.
 
stowpirate said:
Facts are facts and they will not disappear in a list of one liners The wise are the ones who ask the right questions? :confused:

Very few users that make the jump from XP to Linux are going to replace the default GUI. So what I been saying about Konqueror is true.

Also you can use windows without its GUI but not as far as I know replace it. I have been a user of Linux for years and are well aware of its workings but that is not what the debate was about.

Both Linux and MS Windows are a complete shambles when you start looking under the hood :D

I would go with Firefox but I still feel that the security issue in IE is being hyped to the point of hysteria by MS haters.

Anyway with a name like Seamonkeys who could not resist using it :D
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Of the five points you make, five of them are incorrect. Its people like you who manage to muddy the tech waters and confuse people who are thinking of switching. People should use whichever software and hardware they want to, but have the correct knowledge of what they are doing. You are making this harder for everyone. (And making yourself look very silly!)
 
jæd said:
Of the five points you make, five of them are incorrect. Its people like you who manage to muddy the tech waters and confuse people who are thinking of switching. People should use whichever software and hardware they want to, but have the correct knowledge of what they are doing. You are making this harder for everyone. (And making yourself look very silly!)
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I think the MS hater brigade are now out in force :confused:
 
stowpirate said:
I think the MS hater brigade are now out in force :confused:
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It's got nothing to do with hate. It's facts. The design of IE and it's integration within Windows, the priviledge level it runs at, the RPC vulns assiocated with it.
THe fact it is such a target is because of the way it's written makes it easy to do that, not because everyone runs it.
Of course if you know different please provide evidence. edit: too much info.
 
stowpirate said:
Also you can use windows without its GUI but not as far as I know replace it.
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subversplat said:
You can :)

Another vote for Opera here. It's so slimline that even my shitty little laptop loves it.
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Ah, steady. Litestep is Win98 stuff. XP is a different OS altogether.

You can drop out of the Win98 graphical shell into DOS, proper DOS command line DOS, not in a window. Looks like you can change the Win98 desktop with Litestep, too.

You cannot drop out of the XP shell to a command line. You cannot use XP without its GUI.
 
Jonti said:
Ah, steady. Litestep is Win98 stuff. XP is a different OS altogether
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I thought so!

You can still use DOS in XP but I think MS master plan was to try and pretend it has gone and bury it out of sight :confused:

What is the situation in Vista :confused:
 
Whislt on the subject of firefox, could someone please tell me how the fuck to import bookmarks to it from Camino?
It only appears to give me options to import from IE or Safari.
It's highly likely that I'm being a fuckwit, but I can't seem to do it either way.
 
stowpirate said:
SeaMonkey is powered by the same engine as Firefox :p
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Thats the first accurate thing you've said... Both SeaMonkey and Firefox are powered by Gecko, but it doesn't mean that its called "Firefox SeaMonkey"...
 
subversplat said:
I've not tried it personally, but...

Might give it a go today.
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Interesting - please let us know if it works without problems.

If it speeds up the XP OS it may be worth using :confused:

I have tried every tweak possible to get XP OS to run at at speed on an old 1,1Ghz machine with 256mb of ram so this could be another avenue to explore :D
 
jæd said:
Thats the first accurate thing you've said... Both SeaMonkey and Firefox are powered by Gecko, but it doesn't mean that its called "Firefox SeaMonkey"...
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:confused:

I have a feeling we should ignore each others posts in the future or start again :D
 
untethered said:
Does anyone know whether I can run KDE on Vista?
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Well it appears it might be but don't expect it to be easy. Of course both these projects were concerned with installing it on XP, so my assertion is purely theoretical.

http://www.kdelibs.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

http://dot.kde.org/1006613254/

The latter link doesn't appear to have been updated for a while.
Why not just install Linux with KDE and save the money from Vista to buy a big bag of drugs. :D
 
I don't recommend you to unninstall Internet Explorer. Make Firefox the default browser and keep IE as a backup. You could remove Internet Explorer from the desktop, and then on firefox get an extension that will allow you to view a webpage in IE, get something like IE tab, which will let you read the page in IE inside the firefox browser.
 
As you leave IE behind remember to upgrade to IE7, IE6 is a security hole and is still used by a lot of applications to render HTML so. IE7 is much much better.
 
is ie7 out of beta? I've tried it and still prefer firefox lol. I even prefer ie6 over ie7, the layout is crap.
 
hassan said:
is ie7 out of beta? I've tried it and still prefer firefox lol. I even prefer ie6 over ie7, the layout is crap.
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Where have you been. Out of Beta in November. Don't be daft. IE7 is better than IE6 as IE6 is a piece of shit so its not really much competition.
 
lol, havn't really followed ie. i still think ie7 is crap. i tried it and i couldn't find the stop button. for some reason ms felt they must put that button on the other side of the address bar (or the refresh button, cant remember exactly). if you like ie7, firefox looks pretty much the same
 
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