weltweit
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I suppose the super rich are already outed in the Times Rich list so perhaps the point is moot.
Should all salaries be made public? Perhaps Tax returns be public?
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I'm pretty sure anyone who's really wealthy but not seen to be so, is very unlikely to be completing accurate tax returns anyway. Them aside I doubt anyone would be too surprised to find out who has loads of money.
Ours
<gets my people to PM EastEnder's people>
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OR ARE THEY????
weltweit
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How do you mean?
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
'Tax Return' here would basically be 'Tax Record,' including PAYE, I'd assume. It wouldn't make much sense otherwise. A PAYE record essentially is a tax return, it's just not self completed.
scifisam
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You could assume that but it's not what the proposal was.
weltweit
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Well my idea was that the tax affairs of everyone be made public, including if you are a PAYE taxpayer. Sorry if that was not made clear.
cupid_stunt
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
I am sort of with you on that.
Most my life I've had good years & shit years, most likely on average hitting the average earnings figure plus a bit.
In recent years I've been doing somewhat better, but I've worked my socks off setting up my little business, often doing 70+ hours a week. I am currently only doing 25-30 hours a week. My clients get my services at market rates, but I beat my competitors on service, and I pay me team up to double or more than my cowboy competitors, I am certainly not some capitalist pig.
I believe I deserve the return on my hard work, but others could be jealous in view of me being sort of p/t now, without understanding I almost killed myself getting to this stage, and I don't fancy any fall-out from that TBH.
weltweit
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It's late and my brain may have been frazzled earlier in the dayDoesn't the 1st choice automatically include the 2nd and 3rd
..I think "Income and all and any assets should be made public" is the most onerous because the value of assets are not included in the other options.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
It's late and my brain may have been frazzled earlier in the day
I think "Income and all and any assets should be made public" is the most onerous because the value of assets are not included in the other options.
And the hardest to enforce. Assets are easy to hide.
weltweit
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Yes, I suppose that is true. Perhaps someone buys a classic car and keeps it, what value does it have in future years, and perhaps the only true value is if it is sold. And it wouldn't appear on any register anywhere.
weltweit
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That might be one of the easiest things to actually achieve, technically, just order the banks to comply, but I am not sure what it would achieve, bit too detailed perhaps?Should publish everyone's expenditure details too. Fully itemised bank and credit card statements.
Or Universal Basic Income at the same (generous) level for everyone and NO WORK AND INSTANT RETIREMENT for all ..... even simpler!
</channelling daydream of never having to get up in the morning ever again before about 8:30 to 10:30 am particularly after September ...
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Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
And Squeeky bum hole published his P60 on here and got banned, take from that what you will.
Cid
Proper break this time
The pensioning off past it radio 1 DJs slot.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
We don't have the mindset in this country to talk about money openly and honestly. Publishing returns would be nothing but a chance for a peurile peek at your neighbour's affairs with all the consequences that then come from knowing more about somebody than is actually helpful. Do I want my neighbour to know that I earn twice as much or half as much as he does? Not really, no.
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
In many roles in education I thought most people know what others earn anyway? My sister knows pretty much what everyone else in her school is on...
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
As a practical matter, what is it you want published? The salary? The P60? The whole tax return?
chilango
Ha! Ha! Armageddon
Not anymore.
Not with the the dismantling of the state sector.
Academies can set their own pay scales iirc.
As can the private and third sectors.
For instance, I've been teaching 11 years. That should put me at about £35,500 iirc.
But the roles I do would also be due various SEN and TLR point. So a conservative estimate would put me between £40,000 and £45,000 on the National Pay Scale.
I actually earn a shade over £24,000
chilango
Ha! Ha! Armageddon
Everything.
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