Should 4 x 4 vehicles be banned?

[R.I.C.O.]

I saw one of these monsters lurking around Manchester city centre the other day:

I mean look at it - its hideous!

Its a Hummer H2 - which takes up almost 2 lanes, and goes only 10.2 miles for every gallon of petrol. It tried turning the wrong way down a ONE-WAY STREET and was subsequently shouted at by the driver of a Ford Transit - "WANKER!"....

You've got to have either a serious lack of confidence in a) your driving skills or b) the size of your penis to want one of these things. Its a close one, but I'd say (b) was probably the biggest factor.....

 

[exleper]

does anyone remember that site where you could print off a faux parking ticket that listed the dangers and disadvantages of 4x4s which you could stick on one of the fuckers?

i printed one off, put it under the wiper of the monster opposite my house and watched the owner's reaction

edit: http://www.stopurban4x4s.org.uk/

 

[Rocket Romano]

Hummers are popular with football players

So....penis extension then

 

[Griff]

Yeah, saw a few Hummers in Chelsea too. The geezer driving one based his 'style' on Simon Cowell by the look of it. Tosser.

 

[nogoodboyo]

You'd never get 10mpg from a Hummer. Half that.

You know what though, jet engines aren't very efficient either, and there's no tax at all on jet fuel.

I reckon package holidays should be banned. It would be much better environmentally if everyone went to Butlins instead - plus the added advantage of boosting the local economy in Rhyl and Skegness.

 

[Hollis]

*takes Hollis to the 911 garage to show him the wonders of the air-cooled flat six*

I'm afraid the only cars I like are Forumla 1..

 

[zenie]

I saw one of these monsters lurking around Manchester city centre the other day:

I mean look at it - its hideous!

Its a Hummer H2 - which takes up almost 2 lanes, and goes only 10.2 miles for every gallon of petrol. It tried turning the wrong way down a ONE-WAY STREET and was subsequently shouted at by the driver of a Ford Transit - "WANKER!"....

You've got to have either a serious lack of confidence in a) your driving skills or b) the size of your penis to want one of these things. Its a close one, but I'd say (b) was probably the biggest factor.....

Just to note i have seen Chris Eubank in his hummer in brighton many a time and my mate spotted Blue boy Lee Ryan in his in the west end. Becks also has one

These SUV's (sports utility vehicle) IMO are probably worse then the freelanders, cayennes, discovery's and touraegs (sp?) all put together.

get them out of cities FFS

 

[Hollis]

It would be much better environmentally if everyone went to Butlins instead

I tried to arrange an Urban75 Butlins trip last year..

 

[parallelepipete]

<Hummer pic>
You've got to have either a serious lack of confidence in a) your driving skills or b) the size of your penis...

(c) your ability to fit your fat arse into a normal car?

...to want one of these things.

 

[WWWeed]

They should Taxed on the amout of emissions they give off, More Fumes=More Tax. But still ban them in citys (you cant ban them completely, I mean do you really fancy taking your ford focus through the shara dessert?) and put those silly ass women in prision who take 4X4s on the school run and Slow down to almost a stop when going over speed bumps! despite being them made for going half way up a mountian.

 

[R.I.C.O.]

(c) your ability to fit your fat arse into a normal car?

I have to admit, I've never really seen a fat person driving an SUV - they've always been driven by little mousy-types who can barely see over the dashboard....

 

[Griff]

and put those silly ass women in prision who take 4X4s on the school run and Slow down to almost a stop when going over speed bumps! despite being them made for going half way up a mountian.

Apart from Range/Land Rovers and the Toyotas they use in Saudi, most 4x4s aren't particually good at going up hills, let alone mountains.

Which when you think about it, makes them even fucking worse.

 

[Hollis]

I reckon package holidays should be banned. It would be much better environmentally if everyone went to Butlins instead - plus the added advantage of boosting the local economy in Rhyl and Skegness.

But you see package holidays don't cause anywhere near the level of noise and disruption cars do. Cars actually shape our urban environment. Package holidays also don't cause anywhere near the number of deaths/serious injuries cars do.

 

[zenie]

http://www.stopurban4x4s.org.uk/images/khaki1.jpg

Get one of these ed.

and lets get flyering those 4x4

 

[R.I.C.O.]

Lest we forget this monstrosity - the Chrysler Escalade, as seen outside a pretentious cafe bar full of wankers (All Bar One?) near you....

 

[Loki]

Another problem with huge 4x4s is they tend to be much higher above the ground than normal cars. This means when a 4x4 hits a car from the side, it hits at the most vulnerable point for the driver/passengers, thus being much more likely to cause injuries and fatalities in the vehicle hit.

 

[parallelepipete]

Apart from Range/Land Rovers and the Toyotas they use in Saudi, most 4x4s aren't particually good at going up hills, let alone mountains.

Which when you think about it, makes them even fucking worse.

And what happens if one on a school run breaks down? How many people would it take to bump-start one?

 

[lostexpectation]

safe for children

Davina McCall was on some tv show and she said ashamedly I bought big suv,
BUT it for the safety of the _kids_....?

hmm I can imagine her kids coming out of school on tight road with all those moms with 4x4 SUVs around.


*thinks of the height of child and an SUV bumper, and theres apparently blind spot probs too*


for the safety of the kids!

 

[nogoodboyo]

But you see package holidays don't cause anywhere near the level of noise and disruption cars do. Cars actually shape our urban environment. Package holidays also don't cause anywhere near the number of deaths/serious injuries cars do.

Did you miss the winky smiley?

Arguments for banning cars altogether there. Fair enough - I don't think they had cars in the Jetsons, so maybe one day.

As it goes though, I think increased jet travel has massively affected our environment. Ask someone under the Heathrow flight path whether package holidays cause noise and disruption... they might not agree with you. Or you could ask Dr jazz about con-trails, for a different perspective...

The environmental effects of the enourmous and increasing use of jet fuel are a fairly serious business I think.

 

[FreddyB]

Ban 4x4's alltogether unless it's a utilitarian piece of kit that lives on a farm.

Slap £1500 road tax on any vehicle with an engine over 2litre.

 

[Alf Klein]

Where do the people who drive them (appart from the odd farmer I guess) live? Surely they must realise that every one hates them with good reason.

 

[Hollis]

Fair enough... they're just not so visably in your face as say Holloway Road.

 

[nogoodboyo]

<foresees increase in 1.9turbo engines>

 

[Loki]

Where do the people who drive them (appart from the odd farmer I guess) live? Surely they must realise that every one hates them with good reason.

The largest concentration of parked 4x4s I've seen is in the affluent Kensington & Chelsea area of central London. It's a safe bet that not many farmers live there.

 

[FreddyB]

<foresees increase in 1.9turbo engines>

It'd have thousands of older cars scrapped within weeks of it's introduction which would see a huge decrease in the amount of fuel used on the roads.

 

[nogoodboyo]

It'd have thousands of older cars scrapped within weeks of it's introduction which would see a huge decrease in the amount of fuel used on the roads.

Are we back in the Jetsons?

 

[zenie]

Where do the people who drive them (appart from the odd farmer I guess) live?

Surrey

 

[jayeola]

Um, don't see the point of this thread I'm afraid. It's just another sign of the need for conspicuous consumption. When I was a schoolboy it was perfectly acceptable to drive the family around in a rust bucket. This was the day of paraffin heaters and black and white televisions. I hardly ever see "old-bangers" any more.

- cars are much cheaper to produce
- there are too many cars being made
- the average car is that much better than say 20 years ago
- the *average* car is cheaper too
- finance companies are throwing dosh at ppl to buy them

If you can make the payments you tend to buy the car. (Even if the repayments and up keep mean that you have bought it twice over).

This is no flame. I can't stand the sight of those cars myself. But I know that the market's driving it's own prices down and begging us to borrow more money to buy them. It's the norm to buy what you don't need now. Same with computers "...don't like the look of your old VGA monitor? Fuck that and buy a new uber rammed-up super-gigged wireless machine and throw the old one away..."

 

[parallelepipete]

It'd have thousands of older cars scrapped within weeks of it's introduction which would see a huge decrease in the amount of fuel used on the roads.

How about road tax being based on the square of CO2 emissions? That way you'd catch both large inefficient engines and unnecessarily powerful engines.

And also that pesky nogoodboyo in his 1.9 L turbo the boy racer

 

[parallelepipete]

Surrey

No need to apologise