"Shoreditch High St tube station should be called Banglatown"

[laptop]

If anything, Shoreditch High Street Station = NathanBarleyville

I'm sure I saw mock-ups in which it was called "Hoxton".

But now that's the name for a station which I think is on the site of the old North London Line Shoreditch - PDF map here

 

[Crispy]

That's right. There's very little new track involvde in this extension, just the re-use of old track/trackbed, including the half-dismantled bridges over shoreditch high street and old street. It's completely obvious when you look at it on google maps. There's going to have to be some demolitions to get the line round to join onto the NLL at Dalston, though.

 

[laptop]

There's going to have to be some demolitions to get the line round to join onto the NLL at Dalston, though.

That's just demolishing sheds that were stupidly built on the trackbed, though, isn't it?

 

[Treacle Toes]

That's right. There's very little new track involvde in this extension, just the re-use of old track/trackbed, including the half-dismantled bridges over shoreditch high street and old street. It's completely obvious when you look at it on google maps. There's going to have to be some demolitions to get the line round to join onto the NLL at Dalston, though.

They have already rebuilt those bridges along Kingsland Road and demolition has more than started in Dalston.

 

[Treacle Toes]

That's just demolishing sheds that were stupidly built on the trackbed, though, isn't it?

When is the last time you past Daltston Junction going down Dalston Lane towards Graham road...loads of buildings have gone already.

 

[Crispy]

That's just demolishing sheds that were stupidly built on the trackbed, though, isn't it?

looks like it. there's a curve on the other side of that junction that would allow trains to run East along the NLL, but I don't think they're planning to reuse it.

doh!

I completely messed up my interpretation of the aerial photography. they're not buildings that need demolishing, the rails run underground at Dalston junction. The East-bound junction would be a problem though. looks like they've built a supermarket carpark where the rail wants to go.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Banglatown is a silly name. Any estate agent will tell you that it should be Bangla Village. Perhaps the new name could be in smaller letters under the name on the tube sign in a similar way to Little Venice.

The biggest drawback is that it would require a complete re-write of the rules of Mornington Crescent. That is a task that could take a decade or more.





probably

 

[laptop]

When is the last time you past Daltston Junction going down Dalston Lane towards Graham road...loads of buildings have gone already.

Those would be the sheds I was talking about - and more between Boleyn Road and Kingsland High St.

 

[laptop]

the rails run underground at Dalston junction.

I thought the track was in a cutting when the trains ran into Broad Street - did they bridge it? Or were there tunnels that I forgot?

E2A: (Or these aren't buildings, they're big square holes down to the trackbed?)

The East-bound junction would be a problem though. looks like they've built a supermarket carpark where the rail wants to go.

Probably not much call for services from New Cross to Southend and Brighton via Dalston, these days

(Yes, there used to be services from Broad Street to Southend, sporadically to Brighton - and frequently to Poplar, via that curve.)

E2A2: I'll have to think again about that Brighton thing. That would have meant running nearly into Liverpool Street and reversing down the old East London Line. Madder things were done in the name of competition, though.

 

[Crispy]

Exactly - I mistook the square holes for sheds
Lots of london has really low sun angles in the aerial photography, it's annoying.

 

[George & Bill]

Indeed. Ridiculous name aside, given London's constantly shifting demographic, the name could be utterly meaningless to the area within ten years.

Not read the whole thread, but this is a stupid remark. Loads of places, stations, streets and so on are named after things no longer present - why is this a problem?

edit: I disagree with the 'Banglatown' thing because it is a stupid name, not because there is anything wrong with names that later become arbitrary.

 

[smokedout]

part of me is quite attracted to the idea even though its daft just because itd be funny to watch people getting all apopleptic about it

but thats probably not a good reason to rename a train station

 

[Treacle Toes]

Those would be the sheds I was talking about - and more between Boleyn Road and Kingsland High St.

Well I was refering to the buildings talked about in this thread that are are part of the redevelopment in the area which includes the tube extension.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Indeed. Ridiculous name aside, given London's constantly shifting demographic, the name could be utterly meaningless to the area within ten years.

Meaningless?

Not sure i like the name but many places in London have names that speak of their past surely?

The community in that area are significant and the area is known and associated with them, why shouldn't the name 'remember' them even if they are gone in ten years time?

 

[innit]

Meaningless?

Not sure i like the name but many places in London have names that speak of their past surely?

The community in that area are significant and the area is known and associated with them, why shouldn't the name 'remember' them even if they are gone in ten years time?

I agree

I do like the name, think it has more positive connotations than Shoreditch - a name which is going out of use as more people refer to various parts of the area as Brick Lane, Spitalfields, Hoxton.. and Banglatown

 

[Treacle Toes]

Banglatown

Actually, now you mention the present day connotations of the name 'Shoreditch' the name 'Banglatown' is growing on me.

 

[scifisam]

I agree

I do like the name, think it has more positive connotations than Shoreditch - a name which is going out of use as more people refer to various parts of the area as Brick Lane, Spitalfields, Hoxton.. and Banglatown

But Shoreditch High St station isn't in Banglatown, or that near it.

 

[George & Bill]

I agree

I do like the name, think it has more positive connotations than Shoreditch - a name which is going out of use as more people refer to various parts of the area as Brick Lane, Spitalfields, Hoxton.. and Banglatown

To be fair, I'm pretty sure that the name 'Shoreditch' is not 'going out of use' among the established population of the area - which doesn't include Hoxton, that being a separate district

 

[Treacle Toes]

But Shoreditch High St station isn't in Banglatown, or that near it.

Where is Banglatown?

 

[scifisam]

Where is Banglatown?

Bottom end of Brick Lane. The bit where Shoreditch High St is much more commercial and really rather white.

Aldgate East and Liverpool are both nearer to 'Banglatown.'

 

[innit]

To be fair, I'm pretty sure that the name 'Shoreditch' is not 'going out of use' among the established population of the area - which doesn't include Hoxton, that being a separate district

I worked in Tower Hamlets for years and know the area well, yet I'm unclear as to the exact boundaries - and in some areas both appear to be in interchangeable use, hence my argument that the names, in reference to distinct areas, are going out of use.

 

[paolo]

If it was the common name for the area it would make some sense. If you built a new station slap bang in the middle of Chinatown, Chinatown would be a good name. Banglatown isn't the common name though. The argument for Aldgate East > Brick Lane made more sense.

 

[Mation]

Also, immigrant populations change and move on. We'd look a bit silly in forty years time with a tube station called Banglatown in an area of predominantly Kazak immigrants wouldn't we?

lbj says, and I concur, that Brick Lane doesn't sound silly because bricks are no longer made there, so why should Banglatown?

I definitely think renaming Aldgate East to Brick Lane is a good idea.

 

[editor]

Where is Banglatown?

Mainly in the mind of the self-publicist trying to invent it.

 

[editor]

lbj says, and I concur, that Brick Lane doesn't sound silly because bricks are no longer made there, so why should Banglatown?

By that reckoning, they could have started the exciting rebranding years ago, with the area being called Brick Lane, Huguenot-town, Irish Weavers Village, Tailor's Town, Ashkenazi Jewishville, Brewerytown and now Banglatown, with Cityfolk Yupsville quite possibly around the corner in a decade.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Bottom end of Brick Lane. The bit where Shoreditch High St is much more commercial and really rather white.

Aldgate East and Liverpool are both nearer to 'Banglatown.'

The top end of Brick Lane where it meets Bethnal Green Road is about 3 minutes walk to the entrance of the of the new Shoreditch High Street Station.

I'm not arguing for a name change by the way, I actually don't mind either way.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Mainly in the mind of the self-publicist trying to invent it.

Do you actually care that much Ed, really?

 

[BarryB]

The top end of Brick Lane where it meets Bethnal Green Road is about 3 minutes walk to the entrance of the of the new Shoreditch High Street Station.

I'm not arguing for a name change by the way, I actually don't mind either way.

Brick Lane is in Tower Hamlets. Shoreditch High Street is in Hackney. They are different areas. For instance in the Brick Lane area Respect are strong. In the Shoreditch High Street area they dont exist. There is no feeling in Hackney for the new stations name to be changed.

BarryB

 

[Treacle Toes]

Brick Lane is in Tower Hamlets. Shoreditch High Street is in Hackney. They are different areas. For instance in the Brick Lane area Respect are strong. In the Shoreditch High Street area they dont exist. There is no feeling in Hackney for the new stations name to be changed.

BarryB

Did you miss this part of my last post

I'm not arguing for a name change by the way, I actually don't mind either way.

....and I think the new station is a Tower Hamlets postcode not a Hackney one.

 

[cesare]

Mainly in the mind of the self-publicist trying to invent it.

LBTH has it on their website now as well. "Spitalfields and Banglatown"

http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/data/discover/data/spitalfields/index.cfm

Website under construction, I wonder whose it is?

http://www.banglatown.org/

Quite interesting Beeb article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/immig_emig/england/london/article_1.shtml

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Curious innit.

I reckon that in 50-odd years the 'East End' will have been pushed geographically further east but will be still be home to the next wave of immigrant people. Safe landing place and keeps life interesting

Banglatown? Why not? But also, why?

Is it that important to mark passage on what, in effect, is the arrivals lounge?

But if it's that important, yeah, why not.