shevchenko coming to chelsea (maybe)

[tom_craggs]

To be fair with your resources there should be no excuses really, just the premeir league should not be good enough. You cannot really compare Chealsea now with anything that has gone before. No team before now (in England) has been able to blindly spend money without it being important whether or not they were getting a good deal (34m for a 29 year old).

 

[andy2002]

To be fair with your resources there should be no excuses really, just the premeir league should not be good enough. You cannot really compare Chealsea now with anything that has gone before. No team before now (in England) has been able to blindly spend money without it being important whether or not they were getting a good deal (34m for a 29 year old).

£34m is a lot for a 29-year-old, but maybe not so crazy when you consider he's one of the best two or three strikers in the world. I agree Chelsea have to win the CL this season after spending so much money - anything else would be correctly viewed as failure.

 

[potential]

£34m is a lot for a 29-year-old, but maybe not so crazy when you consider he's one of the best two or three strikers in the world. I agree Chelsea have to win the CL this season after spending so much money - anything else would be correctly viewed as failure.

lets work it out then shevchenko cost £30 million four year contract
not including interest thats £52,083.33 per week as at end of his contract hes gonna retire...
£130,000 per week wages
say he scores average twenty goals a season over 4 years =
£ 473,416.65 per goal fuck off if you think thats worth it ?
so moneys no object for abrahmovic but moraly its wrong
so wrong.... what happens if chelski win CL is he gonna get
bored and start up his own formula 1 team...

 

[Neva]

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[Iam]

They have just suigned Obi Mikel now, Yawn. The new real madrid.

£16million for a player they'll never use...

 

[andy2002]

I like how your "maths" doesn't include any of the positive financial gain.

If he scores the goals that win Chelsea the champions league then that's over twenty million right there.

Plus the fact that signing him will boost Chelsea's profile - and therefore potential to make money - all over the world. Up to now, Chelsea haven't really recruited a 'galactico' - Shevchenko is it.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Like the ref that helped us by sending off Del Horno against Barcelona? Yeah, we get all the breaks...

OH TEH NOES, A referee who dares to make a correct decision against the cheats, who the fuck does he think he is ?

Conveniently forgetting the fact the cheats were given a penalty for no reason whatsoever in the second leg.

 

[k_s]

Another bitter united fan, i wish there was a yawn smiley.

 

[andy2002]

OH TEH NOES, A referee who dares to make a correct decision against the cheats, who the fuck does he think he is ?

Conveniently forgetting the fact the cheats were given a penalty for no reason whatsoever in the second leg.

You made two points - one of which was that Chelsea got help from refs. I was merely suggesting that wasn't necessarily the case and illustrated it with an example. The cheats argument is something totally separate - yes, there have been occasions when I haven't liked some of the diving and other nonsense from the likes of Drogba etc. However, I hope you aren't suggesting for one moment that Chelsea are the only club who engage in this type of stuff. All teams get dodgy penalties and all teams have the odd player who goes down like a sack of spuds given half a chance.

 

[andy2002]

Another bitter united fan, i wish there was a yawn smiley.

If he is a United fan then he's probably the last person who should be bleating on about cheating.

 

[k_s]

Not half.

"Rooney's temperament is definitely improving, he hasn't punched anyone in the face during a match for two whole weeks!"

 

[Hanoipete]

Cheats? Please, we couldnt get a decision all season, Robben even got sent off for not leaving the pitch.
Chelsea were always the greatest club in England. Now we are the greatest team.

There are only five real clubs in England's leagues, Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds, West Ham and Cardiff.
The rest are just leisure persuits, like an afternoon out at Thurrock Shopping Centre. They created a terrible system based on money alone and now they cry like children when Chelsea do it better than them.
"Vey are cheats mummy boo hoo!!!"

 

[g force]

ManUre shoudl be laughing - they've got £12m for a player that never even played for them who at the moment is being touted as the next big thing - but there's no guarantee. Good work for them I reckon.

A couple of the midfield will have to move on if they keep signing players.

I did like Jose's comment about Roberto Carlos being "one of the best left backs in the world"...clearly he hasn't been wathcing La Liga for the past three years then.

 

[erasmus]

Cheats? Please, we couldnt get a decision all season, Robben even got sent off for not leaving the pitch.
Chelsea were always the greatest club in England. Now we are the greatest team.

There are only five real clubs in England's leagues, Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds, West Ham and Cardiff.
The rest are just leisure persuits, like an afternoon out at Thurrock Shopping Centre. They created a terrible system based on money alone and now they cry like children when Chelsea do it better than them.
"Vey are cheats mummy boo hoo!!!"

I'd rather spend an afternoon at Thurrock than with a bunch of racist, drunk, stupid, violent, bald headed, ugly men; the qualities that supposedly make up REAL fans at REAL clubs (according to your citing of clubs, exclusively those with famous firms). Those suits supporting Chelsea these days are the same people I suppose, just smartened up into spivs.

 

[iROBOT]

Cheats? Please, we couldnt get a decision all season, Robben even got sent off for not leaving the pitch.
Chelsea were always the greatest club in England. Now we are the greatest team.

There are only five real clubs in England's leagues, Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds, West Ham and Cardiff.
The rest are just leisure persuits, like an afternoon out at Thurrock Shopping Centre. They created a terrible system based on money alone and now they cry like children when Chelsea do it better than them.
"Vey are cheats mummy boo hoo!!!"

Mmmm...Great club?? (maybe) But god damn awful fans (as you are so eloquently illustrating)

The Chelsea Headhunters are a football firm that are linked to the London football team Chelsea F.C.
Nearly all major football teams in Britain have suffered from violence amongst fans and many teams have a specific gang (called a "firm" or 'Casuals' in Scotland) attached to that team, comprising of 'hardcore' thugs whose violence is usually organised and pre-meditated, rather than spontaneous. The Chelsea Headhunters are one of many such gangs, but are amongst the most high-profile.
There is widespread racism amongst the gang and links to various white supremacist organisations, such as Combat 18 and the National Front.
They were infiltrated by investigative reporter Donal MacIntyre for a documentary screened on the BBC on November 9, 1999, in which MacIntyre posed as a wannabe-member of the Chelsea Headhunters. He even had a Chelsea tattoo applied to himself for authenticity. He confirmed the racist elements to the Headhunters and their links to Combat 18, including one top-ranking member who had been imprisoned on one occasion for possession of material related to the Ku Klux Klan.
The programme led to arrests and several convictions.

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Headhunters

 

[DRINK?]

There are only five real clubs in England's leagues, Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds, West Ham and Cardiff.
The rest are just leisure persuits, like an afternoon out at Thurrock Shopping Centre.

Are you for real?....clueless

 

[tom_craggs]

Cheats? Please, we couldnt get a decision all season, Robben even got sent off for not leaving the pitch.
Chelsea were always the greatest club in England. Now we are the greatest team.

There are only five real clubs in England's leagues, Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds, West Ham and Cardiff.
The rest are just leisure persuits, like an afternoon out at Thurrock Shopping Centre. They created a terrible system based on money alone and now they cry like children when Chelsea do it better than them.
"Vey are cheats mummy boo hoo!!!"

To be fair the idea that Chelsea does it better than anyone as far as money is concerned is laughable. The biggest losses in the history of English football.

I do support Man Utd, I am fully aware that we were integral to the state of English football as it is now - based around money alone - but I am not proud of it. How can you be proud that Chelsea have just pushed this even further? But then again looking at the rest of your post I have answered my own question.

One thing I am not is jealous of the way Chelsea operate. But I would agree that your not all cheats.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

You made two points - one of which was that Chelsea got help from refs. I was merely suggesting that wasn't necessarily the case and illustrated it with an example. The cheats argument is something totally separate - yes, there have been occasions when I haven't liked some of the diving and other nonsense from the likes of Drogba etc. However, I hope you aren't suggesting for one moment that Chelsea are the only club who engage in this type of stuff. All teams get dodgy penalties and all teams have the odd player who goes down like a sack of spuds given half a chance.

I agree that all 'big' sides get decisions in their favour, but when john terry can make an audacious double handed save in his own area against fulham and laugh about it on MOTD because he's firmly fucking 100% aware that no one in the media will say a word, when he can quite literally walk over Messi and claim that its alright because his eyes were on the ball at the time, (I could go on, Everton, Villa...... handball after handball, penalty after penalty that wasnt given.)

Dont then tell me that this twat can be judged by the same standards as other defenders let alone called 'the best,' he plays an entirely different game with completely different rules to Carragher, Campbell and even Ferdinand.

essien almost ended a players career and had he been playing for anyone else would have got a very lengthy ban, as did fat frank last season, ferreira broke rooney's foot, tiago and his 35 yard 'ball to hand' bullshit, carvalho and his wrestling, robben and his bizarre diving, SWP diving, joke hole, diving, gudjohnsen, diving, players have been sent off because of them, its a fucking disgrace.

In the face of all that, some tokenistic booing of drogba (who was actually a very good player at marseille whenever I saw him,) just doesnt cut it.

I've never seen them play 90 minutes of honest football and its got little to do with abramovich or even mourinho, they were dirty as fuck everytime I saw them in the 90's, particularly that little cunt 'wise,' rat featured, dirty little bastard.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Cheats? Please, we couldnt get a decision all season, Robben even got sent off for not leaving the pitch.

The sad part is, I think you GENUINELY believe that, that in some way you're entilted to all these decisions, that they're the norm, you genuinely believe that nothing has gone in your favour.

Career ending lunges, playing with two goalkeepers, its all just another day in the bizarro world of cheatski.

They created a terrible system based on money alone and now they cry like children when Chelsea do it better than them.
"Vey are cheats mummy boo hoo!!!"

What is it now, losses of half a billion, Warren Buffet must be shitting it, fiscal management doesnt come much better than that.

 

[k_s]

I agree that all 'big' sides get decisions in their favour, but when john terry can make an audacious double handed save in his own area against fulham and laugh about it on MOTD because he's firmly fucking 100% aware that no one in the media will say a word.

Do you honestly think the BBC are afraid of John Terry phoning up the russian mafia or something and having Gary Lineker killed? It's not a conspiracy, they are not out to get you- i mean why the fuck would they you're clearly a worthless little waste of space.

essien almost ended a players career and had he been playing for anyone else would have got a very lengthy ban

Once again using your (presumably unique) powers of seeing every possible event within a number of divergant timelines- i bet a lot of big names in the theoretical physics world are dying to talk to you. Not only that I reckon you should make a fucking truckload of cash betting on the world cup with your omniscient knowledge of absolutely everything that could, should, shall or might have been. You twat.

 

[Lazarus]

Does anyone even care about Chelsea?

 

[andy2002]

I agree that all 'big' sides get decisions in their favour, but when john terry can make an audacious double handed save in his own area against fulham and laugh about it on MOTD because he's firmly fucking 100% aware that no one in the media will say a word, when he can quite literally walk over Messi and claim that its alright because his eyes were on the ball at the time, (I could go on, Everton, Villa...... handball after handball, penalty after penalty that wasnt given.)

Dont then tell me that this twat can be judged by the same standards as other defenders let alone called 'the best,' he plays an entirely different game with completely different rules to Carragher, Campbell and even Ferdinand.

essien almost ended a players career and had he been playing for anyone else would have got a very lengthy ban, as did fat frank last season, ferreira broke rooney's foot, tiago and his 35 yard 'ball to hand' bullshit, carvalho and his wrestling, robben and his bizarre diving, SWP diving, joke hole, diving, gudjohnsen, diving, players have been sent off because of them, its a fucking disgrace.

In the face of all that, some tokenistic booing of drogba (who was actually a very good player at marseille whenever I saw him,) just doesnt cut it.

I've never seen them play 90 minutes of honest football and its got little to do with abramovich or even mourinho, they were dirty as fuck everytime I saw them in the 90's, particularly that little cunt 'wise,' rat featured, dirty little bastard.

Your last paragraph gives you away - face it, you have a negative view of Chelsea, clearly always have had and are therefore totally uninterested in giving the club or its players anything approaching a fair, level-headed hearing. Oh, and if you are a United fan then the words 'pot', 'kettle' and 'black' certainly come to mind seeing as how Roy Keane is the dirtiest fucker to ever draw breath in the English Premiership.

 

[andy2002]

Does anyone even care about Chelsea?

Who the fuck rattled your cage, newbie?

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Do you honestly think the BBC are afraid of John Terry phoning up the russian mafia or something and having Gary Lineker killed? It's not a conspiracy, they are not out to get you- i mean why the fuck would they you're clearly a worthless little waste of space.



Once again using your (presumably unique) powers of seeing every possible event within a number of divergant timelines- i bet a lot of big names in the theoretical physics world are dying to talk to you. Not only that I reckon you should make a fucking truckload of cash betting on the world cup with your omniscient knowledge of absolutely everything that could, should, shall or might have been. You twat.

How can someone use so many words and actually manage to say fuck all.

You odious dog raping cunt.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Your last paragraph gives you away - face it, you have a negative view of Chelsea, clearly always have had and are therefore totally uninterested in giving the club or its players anything approaching a fair, level-headed hearing. Oh, and if you are a United fan then the words 'pot', 'kettle' and 'black' certainly come to mind seeing as how Roy Keane is the dirtiest fucker to ever draw breath in the English Premiership.

Nice, the ol' 'you must have an agenda shimmy,' perhaps would have been wiser to make any points you may have had in order to, you know, actually prove that I'm unwilling to give the cheats a 'level-headed hearing,' (in all honesty, I'd love to hear a defence of one team breaking the bones of two/three seperate players in two seasons and not serving so much as a days suspension for it that doesnt involve 'oh but this team did that, this team did that.')

C'est la vie.

What I will say is that I'm not a united fan, shock horror, not everyone has to have an agenda, I'm a fan of football and of fairplay and roy keane is the dirtiest fucker to ever draw breath in the english premiership, closely followed by that fucking alan shearer.

 

[erasmus]

the media always cream all over John Terry. No matter what he does, he's 'immense', 'superb' whatever other bullshit superlatives they use. He cheats as much as the next chelsea cretin, but because he's a righteous twat, and a supposed backbone of the England squad, he can do no wrong. Sanctimonious ugly bastard who plays the ugliest of ugly football

 

[andy2002]

Nice, the ol' 'you must have an agenda shimmy,' perhaps would have been wiser to make any points you may have had in order to, you know, actually prove that I'm unwilling to give the cheats a 'level-headed hearing,' (in all honesty, I'd love to hear a defence of one team breaking the bones of two/three seperate players in two seasons and not serving so much as a days suspension for it that doesnt involve 'oh but this team did that, this team did that.')

But your scattershot approach - everything Chelsea do is bad - doesn't really deserve anything more than the "you must have an agenda shimmy". On the one hand you raise some fair points, on the other you ruin those decent points by blaming Chelsea for everything short of causing Hurricane Katrina and training suicide bombers at secret bases in Afghanistan! Ferreira broke Rooney's foot accidentally when both players were running hell for leather to get a loose ball; Carvalho, in "blocking off" Barcelona's goalie two seasons ago, did nothing worse than you see week in week out at any ground in the country; Eidur Gudjohnson is not a dirty player and never has been. In a lot of the instances you mention you appear to be confusing competitiveness and passion for cheating and gamesmanship.

 

[k_s]

How can someone use so many words and actually manage to say fuck all.

Sorry mate, i should have explained that language only works on the literate.

 

[siarc]

the media always cream all over John Terry. No matter what he does, he's 'immense', 'superb' whatever other bullshit superlatives they use. He cheats as much as the next chelsea cretin, but because he's a righteous twat, and a supposed backbone of the England squad, he can do no wrong. Sanctimonious ugly bastard who plays the ugliest of ugly football

agreed :s

a good df fo sho

also a total vicious cunt, and the adulation of him is nauseating

 

[Genghis Cohen]

But your scattershot approach - everything Chelsea do is bad - doesn't really deserve anything more than the "you must have an agenda shimmy". On the one hand you raise some fair points, on the other you ruin those decent points by blaming Chelsea for everything short of causing Hurricane Katrina and training suicide bombers at secret bases in Afghanistan! Ferreira broke Rooney's foot accidentally when both players were running hell for leather to get a loose ball; Carvalho, in "blocking off" Barcelona's goalie two seasons ago, did nothing worse than you see week in week out at any ground in the country; Eidur Gudjohnson is not a dirty player and never has been. In a lot of the instances you mention you appear to be confusing competitiveness and passion for cheating and gamesmanship.

I blame cheating for a lot of things, true, I blame the culture of cheating for alan shearer having his elbow in the argentinian goalkeepers face whilst campbell scored, I blame the culture of cheating for john thuggery holding the portugese goalkeeper whilst, again, campbell put the ball in, they did these things because not only were/are they allowed to get away with pulling that sort of shit, week in, week out out they're lauded for it, they're told how brilliant they are and ultimately it fucks england, did the press look at themselves, perhaps claim some element of responsibility for sanctioning that sort of behaviour ?

Did they fuck and we all know what happened to urs meier in the latter instance.

Again, your defence is 'other sides do it,' the champions league final 16 is not a 'week in week out' match, they cheated to win and we both know it, not only that they then kicked up one almighty shitstorm when what was basically a 50/50 decision went against them in the semi's (a match they were lucky to even be involved in,) which we only heard the end of when Liverpool finished above them in the group phase.

As for gudjohnsen, you're evidently forgetting his dive in the first leg of last seasons cl semi final that he knew would get Alonso suspended for the second leg, might not be a 'dirty' player but he's still a cheat.

I'll say this though; ranieri did a good job with limited funds, found some fairly good players and to a large extent cleaned up their act.

EDIT: actually, calling gudjohnsen a cheat is probably unfair, in the same way calling swp a cheat after his dive at newcastle would be unfair, its the ethos of the club, not the player.