Shambo the sacred bullock!!!!!

[Chairman Meow]

A still from the Shambo wedcam earlier

You sick fucker.

I'm so bloody right on, when I was watching the news earlier I was thinking, mmm, perhaps they should be resepectig the beliefs of the Hindus (ermm, although they all look like white guys from middle england). Now I see that, in fact, you are quite right. I thank you and would like to buy a subscription etc etc...

 

[lewislewis]

Really, if these people were so fucking worried about the fate of our bovine bretheren, why the fuck aren't they outside McDonalds every Saturday, where they'd save loads of bulls, and not just one pampered one

Exactly, it's because they're wealthy incomers wanting to be all 'far out' and stuff. Eugh.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

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[zog]

But for the record, 'Shambo' should be killed, no disrespect to the genuine Hindu faith but these are, as Udo said, middle-class white people, part of the 'new age' migration from England.

Would you think better of them if they were white middle class Welsh people?

I don't have a problem with these people living here......

but I do get a sense from your posts that you do in fact resent these english sorts living here.

 

[Belushi]

I have to agree with Derf on this.

Also, I would have more sympathy with the monks if they were proper Hindus. but they are in fact all middle class white people

I was having dinner with a Hindu mate last night who had no problem with the cow being slaughtered and made exactly that point about them not being 'real' Hindus.

 

[llantwit]

Yeah, me too. Your constant use of the word 'incomer' is a bit league of gentlemen, to be honest.
Hopefully Brockway'll be along to correct me soon, tho.

 

[derf]

While I think they were very foolish in trying to protect this animal that was potentially so dangerous to both them and other local livestock these people can't be all bad if they run a hospice.

Maybe we could give them a little slack

 

[ddraig]

shambo is dead!
long live shambo!

ohhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[spudulike]

I was having dinner with a Hindu mate last night who... made exactly that point about them not being 'real' Hindus.

I assume he means "real" as in ale (hindu, but they're not as good at it as him) rather than "real" as fake (they know they're just pretending) or "real" as in imaginary (they think they're hindu but they're wrong)?

I love a good schism.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

shambo is dead!
long live shambo!

ohhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

LOL

 

[Belushi]

I assume he means "real" as in ale (hindu, but they're not as good at it as him) rather than "real" as fake (they know they're just pretending) or "real" as in imaginary (they think they're hindu but they're wrong)?

I love a good schism.

Yeah, he thinks they're just a bunch of new-agers playing at being Hindus (which is something you have to be born into apparently).

 

[llantwit]

You can't convert to Hinduism?
Good. Fucking awful religion.
Fortunately you can convert out of it. Which is nice for the lower castes, like.

 

[Belushi]

You can't convert to Hinduism?
Good. Fucking awful religion.
Fortunately you can convert out of it. Which is nice for the lower castes, like.

I think opinion is divided, hinduism isnt really one religion as such.

Indian Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and Parsees all have caste as well, many dalits have converted to Buddhism because of caste oppression.

 

[Gromit]

Yeah the caste system sucks.

Remember one programme mentioning how this employee couldn't refuse lending money to his better paid boss because he was a lower caste than him and he couldn't insist on when he was repaid either so the boss could take his sweet time holding onto it. He'd been out of pocket for 6 months.

They were boat builders at a massive shipyard where non caste workers (untouchables) were used to do stuff with asbestos as it they were expendable and asbestos is cheaper than non carcegenic materials.

 

[Udo Erasmus]

Interestingly the revival of Buddhism in India was because of the mass conversion of untouchables following the lead of Dr Ambedkar.

Ambedkar was an unusual Buddhist however, he denied one of the 4 noble truths that suffering is caused by selfish craving and desire arguing that suffering was caused by class society.

My comments on middle class, English hindus should be taken with a pinch of salt, as I haven't looked into the Shambo case in any depth, but I could be right.

 

[Udo Erasmus]

Shambo burgers, get them here while they're still infectious.

Really, if these people were so fucking worried about the fate of our bovine bretheren, why the fuck aren't they outside McDonalds every Saturday, where they'd save loads of bulls, and not just one pampered one

You would think that Col_Buendia, being an anarchist, would be with the monks - but typically he takes the side of the state

 

[Belushi]

Interestingly the revival of Buddhism in India was because of the mass conversion of untouchables following the lead of Dr Ambedkar.

Ambedkar was an unusual Buddhist however, he denied one of the 4 noble truths that suffering is caused by selfish craving and desire arguing that suffering was caused by class society.

Dr Ambedkar was a great man, a much more impressive figure than Gandhi imho.

 

[lewislewis]

Would you think better of them if they were white middle class Welsh people?



but I do get a sense from your posts that you do in fact resent these english sorts living here.

Don't be so stupid! Their class status is the important issue, not nationality, but if you ignore the fact they're English (or more importantly they originate from outside West Wales) you won't understand their position and role (or lack of) in the local community. I'm only here today because of English migration into South Wales, but suffice to say my grandparents were workers and didn't flounce around pretending to be Hindus and worshipping livestock.

In any case, these aren't genuine Hindus, they say they are a 'multi-faith community' lol !

 

[llantwit]

You would think that Col_Buendia, being an anarchist, would be with the monks - but typically he takes the side of the state

Oh yeah, cos anarchists are well known for suporting Monks. Maybe he doesn't really give a shit about the monks' or the state's positions on the 'Shambo Debate'?

 

[ddraig]

You would think that Col_Buendia, being an anarchist, would be with the monks - but typically he takes the side of the state

oh dear oh dear.
i don't reckon u wanna go there! and u iz way rong

 

[Dic Penderyn]

you havn't really got a clue about Anarchism have you Udo?

 

[mauvais]

Goodbye peoples' bullock
May you ever stay in our hearts
I only hope my beefburgers
Won't contain your sacred parts.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

He he

 

[llantwit]

Goodbye peoples' bullock
May you ever stay in our hearts
I only hope my beefburgers
Won't contain your sacred parts.

lolz

 

[llantwit]

you havn't really got a clue about Anarchism have you Udo?

What you talking about?
He knows lifestylist counter-revolushunary scum when he sees it.
What's to understand?!

 

[Col_Buendia]

You would think that Col_Buendia, being an anarchist, would be with the monks - but typically he takes the side of the state

Ha ha!! You fucking nob. I leave the task of supporting religious nutters to the SWP. While the hindus venerate their bull, Udo and his lot pay their respects to a CAT!!

 

[Udo Erasmus]

A fine piece of acting. I thought there was a certain shakespearian quality to his performance on Big Brother.

But on a more serious note.

Col_Buendia sides with the agencies of social control - the police and the state - against people living in a commune and minding their own business.

It sounds like a slippery slope to me.

But then Proudhon did support strike breaking!

 

[Udo Erasmus]

you havn't really got a clue about Anarchism have you Udo?

I expect I probably know more than you - that's why I'm not anarchist!

 

[rhys gethin]

Where did this place they're at get its odd name? I never heard of this vale place before.

 

[Udo Erasmus]

Skanda is a hindu God.