purves grundy
ambient clown remix
That's a big issue in Jamaica too, between local blokes and middle-aged American females.
Sex Tourism
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And Thailand isn't the preserve of males looking for sleazy fun either. Middle aged, professional women deluding themselves that they are attractive (like their male counterparts) by picking up locals, and well, using them, cynically. Economic and sexual exploitation isn't just comitted by sweaty, ugly white men, but also sweaty ugly white women too. Now, I am getting cliched! 
But that isn't the full picture, as Purves has already pointed out in another post about someone he knows.
But that isn't the full picture, as Purves has already pointed out in another post about someone he knows.
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
purves grundy said:
I'm confused
Where in this thread did anyone suggest that anyone 'deserved to get AIDS' ? I can't see it anywhere. I certainly don't, anyway. I'm just disappointed that some (married with kids) people I know take risks and don't seem at all concerned about it, that's all.
purves grundy
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Do you think he hopes their flight gets delayed?Epicurus said:
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
The increasing trend of women looking for "boyfriends" in the Carribean is an interesting and (IMPO) rather distasteful new trend, however I don't think the reason its not quite as talked about as men going to get "girlfriends" is so much double standards as opposed to it being a) a relatively new trend, and b) arguably not as widespread. After all, where are all the bars with men squeezing ping pong balls out their arse?Ryazan said:
Interestingly, from having been a backpacker, I remember in Malowi the local men would flock around female backpackers and could be very charming (and, if I'm honest, sometimes fit as!) I can quite see why someone who perhaps isn't used to such attention and is rather gullable might fall for it. Interestingly one guy we were chatting to ended up marrying a Western tourest and moved to Britain with her for a whole year before it fell apart and he returned home. I think the whole "relationship" (as opposed to just sex with a prostitute) thing can be very complicated - in some instances I have no doubt that the Westerner is preditory, but in other instances I think they can be manipulated into thinking that something is there when it is not.
I also think there's potentially a huge difference between the whole "relationship" thing and going to see a prostitute who is stuck in a brothel unable to leave and being highly likely to be trafficked, or abusing underage kids.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
What they deserve
Is actually to be traced back to their home country, and if they have been using children for the deviant pleasure, prosecuted in their own country, where they do not have enough cash to bribe their way out but then sent BACK, to where they committed the crime with our/their govt paying for the cost of their imprisonment.
I know that those who work with orphans in India are xtremely suspicious of Western men who wish to work in sector, so many of them have bribed their way out having molested 100s of children. It damages the rep of those who are really there to help
On their release and return, perm refusal of passport
They have some draconian stuff for people they think MIGHT be football hoolies, or is that cos the footie thugs do their shit in the main road and it ends up on TV, making us "look" bad?
Enrages me.
Is actually to be traced back to their home country, and if they have been using children for the deviant pleasure, prosecuted in their own country, where they do not have enough cash to bribe their way out but then sent BACK, to where they committed the crime with our/their govt paying for the cost of their imprisonment.
I know that those who work with orphans in India are xtremely suspicious of Western men who wish to work in sector, so many of them have bribed their way out having molested 100s of children. It damages the rep of those who are really there to help
On their release and return, perm refusal of passport
They have some draconian stuff for people they think MIGHT be football hoolies, or is that cos the footie thugs do their shit in the main road and it ends up on TV, making us "look" bad?
Enrages me.
Ryazan said:And Thailand isn't the preserve of males looking for sleazy fun either. Middle aged, professional women deluding themselves that they are attractive (like their male counterparts) by picking up locals, and well, using them, cynically. Economic and sexual exploitation isn't just comitted by sweaty, ugly white men, but also sweaty ugly white women too. Now, I am getting cliched!
But that isn't the full picture, as Purves has already pointed out in another post about someone he knows.
Surely people who go to somewhere where they *know* they can buy sex fairly cheaply are not "deluding themselves" at all? That's why they are there!
And is going with a prostitute somehow wrong-er the more sweaty and ugly the person doing it is?
Surely common sense would dictate that those unfortunate enough to be "sweaty ugly" people are those who would have the most need of prostitutes, because they would be less likely to get laid otherwise?
Giles..
pk
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hipipol said:
I'd still prefer the three shots to the head and fed to swine option, personally, but I cannot understand how known paedophiles are granted passports to commit offences overseas.
What's Gary Glitter been up to all this time in Phnom Penh?
As for backpackers - yeah, if they're paying young children for sex then I wouldn't give a toss if they wound up dead.
pinkmonkey said:
I agree - I've lived in Bangkok and if you stayed away from the well-known red-light districts (which take up a very small proportion of a massive city), prostitution wasn't any more evident than it is in London.
Maybe even a bit less so - the phone boxes Bangkok city centre aren't full of prostitute's business cards!
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Agent Sparrow said:
Well it seemed to happen in Metaponto too
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Well yes ha ha!pinkmonkey said:Well it seemed to happen in Metaponto too
That does raise the question though, what is the difference between being a sex tourist, and shagging a local? Where is the line drawn? And is that line drawn dependent on the wealth of the country?
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Can we file this question in the same place as 'how do you define working class?'
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Hollis said:
In fact even the locals shag the locals.
I meant what I said, isn’t “I hope they gets what’s coming to them” an English phrase?Hollis said:So what did you mean then?
I’ve heard it used a number of times, if someone is standing at a bus stop and for no reason at all someone walks up to that person and punches them in the face wouldn’t you say I hope the attacker “gets what’s coming to them”.
As I said there was no mention of AIDS on this thread when I made my comment, so why is it being linked to the words AIDS that appeared long after my post?
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Oh the humanity!pinkmonkey said:
spacemonkey
I Love Noodles
pk said:
- is that known to happen??
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Harsh thread this. Gonna defend thailand a little.
Admittedly I have met some of the most incredibly ugly and truely hideous men here, getting their rocks off to the local and often very pretty Thai prostitutes. Due to their size, some of the Thai women can look extremely young, but actually are well into their twenties. If pedo's can get off on that, I would say thats probably a good thing.
Thing about prostitution in Thailand is that its not really here for tourists. About 5% of prostitution is aimed at the western tourist. Thats gonna be mainly in Pattaya and Bangkok. The rest is use by the Thai's and their Malay friends.
The other thing thats different in Thailand is that the sex industry is not sleezy. Its hard to define but it all 'hangs out'. Totally in your face and deemed acceptable by all and sundry. Its a cultural thing.
There is a website that has stories from western men meeting thai women.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ (Down at the moment, but I expect that temp)
Its can be quite sad to read at times. Thai women aren't stupid. They are very astute... http://www.bangkokbob.net/10_commandments.htm
With all the attention it now gets, Thailand has been cleaning up it act, its still not perfect. Cambodia is where all the scary sex tourists have now moved to, that is home to the chicken farms....
Admittedly I have met some of the most incredibly ugly and truely hideous men here, getting their rocks off to the local and often very pretty Thai prostitutes. Due to their size, some of the Thai women can look extremely young, but actually are well into their twenties. If pedo's can get off on that, I would say thats probably a good thing.
Thing about prostitution in Thailand is that its not really here for tourists. About 5% of prostitution is aimed at the western tourist. Thats gonna be mainly in Pattaya and Bangkok. The rest is use by the Thai's and their Malay friends.
The other thing thats different in Thailand is that the sex industry is not sleezy. Its hard to define but it all 'hangs out'. Totally in your face and deemed acceptable by all and sundry. Its a cultural thing.
There is a website that has stories from western men meeting thai women.
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ (Down at the moment, but I expect that temp)
Its can be quite sad to read at times. Thai women aren't stupid. They are very astute... http://www.bangkokbob.net/10_commandments.htm
With all the attention it now gets, Thailand has been cleaning up it act, its still not perfect. Cambodia is where all the scary sex tourists have now moved to, that is home to the chicken farms....
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Belushi said:
Isn't 'chicken' slang for young rent boy?
Thailand = sex in many eyes in western countries. Men follow their dicks over here. Assuming they're single, then what problem can there be? If they're married, then morals come into it, but each to their own within rightful limits.
The thai girls that british men can meet in bangkok pattaya sumui phuket and so on, especially after beers, appear to be most beautiful. Many are stunning, some are lady-boys without the man catching on.
When i came here i was strangled with british mores on the whole 'business', and it took me a while to shrug them off.
The whole story of sex in thailand is a massive one, and a great learning curve for anyone that is exposed to it.
But, sex tourism? No surprise whatsoever. Outside of one's society and its expectations of your behaviour, one is released. Men lose their dicks to hormones and beer. Totally natural.
The thai girls that british men can meet in bangkok pattaya sumui phuket and so on, especially after beers, appear to be most beautiful. Many are stunning, some are lady-boys without the man catching on.
When i came here i was strangled with british mores on the whole 'business', and it took me a while to shrug them off.
The whole story of sex in thailand is a massive one, and a great learning curve for anyone that is exposed to it.
But, sex tourism? No surprise whatsoever. Outside of one's society and its expectations of your behaviour, one is released. Men lose their dicks to hormones and beer. Totally natural.
Hollis said:
Many of those working where westerners go mate are there by choice. They recognise the money they can get. Many others go into the profession not that willingly, but do so in order to send money to their family. They then, much like in any job, adapt to the needs of the job.
But the prostitution that is generally understood in britain only really occurs in this country for the thais and japanese, and other asians i guess. Where westerners meet girls is in pubs and bars, playing pool, talking, drinking. Just like in any pub in britain on a friday night. Just a slightly different context of people, but everyone looking for a root...
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Well, its still a pretty shocking state of affairs where the easiest way of earning good money (for some I'd imagine the only possible way) is by entering this profession. Mind you, its not too dissimilar the same world over.fela fan said:
