Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
nowt yet, though I like this:
Get to work crafters!
Get to work crafters!
Severance - TV series
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Not as exciting as the penultimate episode of season one.
Generally decent episode. I wasn't a fan of last week's.
I didn't like Scouts meeting with Cobel. It wasn't realistic, it was simply convenient for the writers. I know why its done, but still I hate it when that happens. Feels lazy. Severance has so far been better than that. Several questions would have been immediately asked / demanded. Not just "right I'm going home" . . . So did they then just stand there in silence until dark?
Generally decent episode. I wasn't a fan of last week's.
I didn't like Scouts meeting with Cobel. It wasn't realistic, it was simply convenient for the writers. I know why its done, but still I hate it when that happens. Feels lazy. Severance has so far been better than that. Several questions would have been immediately asked / demanded. Not just "right I'm going home" . . . So did they then just stand there in silence until dark?
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I think Tramel Tilman is the best actor in this along with John Turturro and Christopher Walken.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
As noted elsewhere, that last episode was, in many ways, inspired by a Twilight Zone episode of the same name. Think it stops there? In the following episode:
"Mouth" McGarry, the manager of a broken-down baseball team called the Hoboken Zephyrs on its last legs, is introduced to Dr. Stillman, an inventor who built a robot named Casey to play on the team. Casey has the ability to throw super-fast balls, super-slow balls, and extreme curveballs that cannot be hit.
Eventually, after Casey is beaned by a ball and given a physical examination, the National League finds out and rules that Casey must be taken off the team because he is not human. Dr. Stillman then installs an artificial heart for Casey.
However, due to his new heart, Casey now possesses human emotions. He refuses to throw his fast balls anymore, saying that he feels empathy with the batter and does not want to ruin the batter's career by striking him out, and quits baseball to become a social worker. With the team sure to fold soon, Dr. Stillman gives McGarry Casey's blueprints as a souvenir. Glancing at them, McGarry suddenly has an idea, and runs after Dr. Stillman to tell him. Rumors later surface intimating that McGarry has used the blueprints to build a world-champion team of Casey robots.
Which, y'know, seems to fit in quite well. And then there's the episode after that (the last in season 1), where:
Coming home, Victoria West spots her husband, playwright Gregory West, through the window sharing a drink, and flirting in his study with Mary, an attractive young woman. Gregory quickly destroys a tape, which displeases Mary. When Victoria barges into the room, Mary is nowhere to be found.
Gregory explains to his wife that any character that he describes into his dictation machine will appear according to his description. To make the character disappear, all he has to do is cut out that portion of the tape and throw it into his fireplace. Victoria doesn't believe him and is ready to divorce him and commit him to an asylum. Gregory demonstrates his power, summoning Mary again and "uncreating" her, but not before Mary requests that Gregory not bring her back again, as she has grown weary of her segmented existence. Appalled, Victoria tries to escape, but Gregory uses his power to summon an elephant to stop her. Gregory discovered this talent when Phillip Wainwright from his play “Fury in the Night,” whom he had put a great deal of effort and attention into approached him as a real flesh-and-blood person with his own independent will, shook his hand and thanked him.
Believing none of this, Victoria tells Gregory that he is insane and she is going to have him committed. In response, Gregory pulls a section of tape from his safe and explains that it contains her description, revealing her to be one of his creations, but that recently she has begun to exert her own independence from him. Refusing to believe him, Victoria snatches the tape away from him and throws it into the fire, and promptly begins to feel faint. She realizes too late he was telling the truth, and disappears as the flames consume the tape. Frantic, Gregory rushes to his dictation machine and begins to re-describe Victoria. He quickly reconsiders and instead describes Mrs. Mary West as his wife. Mary appears and fixes her husband a drink, apparently lacking any memory of her previous interval of existence.
Which is all lovely and neat, but I suspect a big fat red herring. No way would they give us such a blatant clue!
(I am gonna watch all three though, just to make sure)
"Mouth" McGarry, the manager of a broken-down baseball team called the Hoboken Zephyrs on its last legs, is introduced to Dr. Stillman, an inventor who built a robot named Casey to play on the team. Casey has the ability to throw super-fast balls, super-slow balls, and extreme curveballs that cannot be hit.
Eventually, after Casey is beaned by a ball and given a physical examination, the National League finds out and rules that Casey must be taken off the team because he is not human. Dr. Stillman then installs an artificial heart for Casey.
However, due to his new heart, Casey now possesses human emotions. He refuses to throw his fast balls anymore, saying that he feels empathy with the batter and does not want to ruin the batter's career by striking him out, and quits baseball to become a social worker. With the team sure to fold soon, Dr. Stillman gives McGarry Casey's blueprints as a souvenir. Glancing at them, McGarry suddenly has an idea, and runs after Dr. Stillman to tell him. Rumors later surface intimating that McGarry has used the blueprints to build a world-champion team of Casey robots.
Which, y'know, seems to fit in quite well. And then there's the episode after that (the last in season 1), where:
Coming home, Victoria West spots her husband, playwright Gregory West, through the window sharing a drink, and flirting in his study with Mary, an attractive young woman. Gregory quickly destroys a tape, which displeases Mary. When Victoria barges into the room, Mary is nowhere to be found.
Gregory explains to his wife that any character that he describes into his dictation machine will appear according to his description. To make the character disappear, all he has to do is cut out that portion of the tape and throw it into his fireplace. Victoria doesn't believe him and is ready to divorce him and commit him to an asylum. Gregory demonstrates his power, summoning Mary again and "uncreating" her, but not before Mary requests that Gregory not bring her back again, as she has grown weary of her segmented existence. Appalled, Victoria tries to escape, but Gregory uses his power to summon an elephant to stop her. Gregory discovered this talent when Phillip Wainwright from his play “Fury in the Night,” whom he had put a great deal of effort and attention into approached him as a real flesh-and-blood person with his own independent will, shook his hand and thanked him.
Believing none of this, Victoria tells Gregory that he is insane and she is going to have him committed. In response, Gregory pulls a section of tape from his safe and explains that it contains her description, revealing her to be one of his creations, but that recently she has begun to exert her own independence from him. Refusing to believe him, Victoria snatches the tape away from him and throws it into the fire, and promptly begins to feel faint. She realizes too late he was telling the truth, and disappears as the flames consume the tape. Frantic, Gregory rushes to his dictation machine and begins to re-describe Victoria. He quickly reconsiders and instead describes Mrs. Mary West as his wife. Mary appears and fixes her husband a drink, apparently lacking any memory of her previous interval of existence.
Which is all lovely and neat, but I suspect a big fat red herring. No way would they give us such a blatant clue!
(I am gonna watch all three though, just to make sure)
Augie March
blahem
It went full 70s sci-fi thriller by the end and I bloody loved it. Excellent finale.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
I'm looking forward to it.
My chromebook has exploded so will have to watch it on my phone. Bum.
My chromebook has exploded so will have to watch it on my phone. Bum.
souljacker
innit
Great bit of telly that.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
What the fuck was he thinking?
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
"I don't want to abandon the love of my life"
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
“And quite possibly my own life”’
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
But now would they live? Off the snack machines (there’s probably a proper word for that but it escapes me) and the melons/waffles if they find the kitchens?
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Where can they go though. His only hope was reintegration.
I liked the first section of the show though, bringing up aspects of the character motivations that other shows / writers might have missed or ignored for convenience.
I really enjoyed that the characters motivations changed as they went through various doors. If there was a Helli plan or conversation that we were not privy to, then Scout would have shouted to his wife to leave, "something I need to do" after she transformed from Casey. There would also have not been a crazy long (for tension) delay.
Where are they off to?
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
The unknown. Life. The future.
If people want to live then they take whatever option they have, even if it's not likely to succeed.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
A perfectly balanced diet if supplemented with endless goats
and Drummond's corpse
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Season 3
I hope Devon and Cobell are in the carpark waiting for Gemma, cos presumably she is still on Lumon’s premises and security may soon appear to abduct Gemma again, and the outside the world may remain unaware of Lumon’s nefarious shenanigans
Presumably they’ll just be rounded up and either sent back to work or disappeared. Though Helly would just be gone for ever and Helena would just be back to her old life.
Mark’s disappearance would have to be accounted for though.
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Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
I kind of like the idea of Mark S and Helly finding other couples/groups hidden in the bowels of the severed floor, living some feral existence for months and years.
Also their running off together despite all odds reminds me of one of the few Black Mirror episodes with a happy ending (the dating app one).
Also their running off together despite all odds reminds me of one of the few Black Mirror episodes with a happy ending (the dating app one).
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
it reminded me of the last couple of episodes of The Prisoner with its utter bonkersness and the very ending was Butch & Sundance. A lovely freeze frame.
It was almost perfect, my only quibble (other than not seeing John Turturros beautiful face) was that I thought Helly was going to push him thru the out door - she had just said the ‘I am her’ bit, after all. Obviously, it sets it up better for the next season if that doesn’t happen, but still…
Was it bad of me to absolutely piss myself when Mr Drummond got his? Because I did.
It was almost perfect, my only quibble (other than not seeing John Turturros beautiful face) was that I thought Helly was going to push him thru the out door - she had just said the ‘I am her’ bit, after all. Obviously, it sets it up better for the next season if that doesn’t happen, but still…
Was it bad of me to absolutely piss myself when Mr Drummond got his? Because I did.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Yes that was good.
I liked that the writing has swung back around to 'what would these people actually do in this situation' rather than only being motivated to move the plot to the next point in the script.
Just the end that didn't seem right. I know they were making something visual, artistic and striking, but I would have expected the characters to say something. This could have been done in a way that we couldn't hear it (ooh more mystery), I would have been fine with that. He obviously intendeded Gemma to go on her own, even if he made that decision at the last minute.
What I do like though . . . If there is no season 3, I'm quite happy with this psychedelic, thoughtful 'butch & sundance' end to the whole thing.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
There is a season 3
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Well maybe they weren't sure when they finished S2
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I don’t understand this. Why do they have to say anything? Innie Mark sees this stranger looking at him through the door and makes the split second decision to stay with the person he is in love with.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Because he stands there for fucking ages. With the woman screaming at him though the door. "I I I I. . Can't. . You have to go, I'll be ok".
Seems very out of character.
He also says nothing to Helli. I'm not sure its natural to run down halls like that together without saying a word.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Running and speaking at the same time?
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Yes. Nothing odd about that.Running and speaking at the same time?
. . . Or in the huge amount of time before running.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I did too. Laughed my arse off.
