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Serious Anarchist conference Nov 2nd

Yeah, I think that might be a good idea to be honest. That way you don't miss as much by being in the pub or hungover!
 
bluestreak said:
Yeah, I think that might be a good idea to be honest. That way you don't miss as much by being in the pub or hungover!

Top person! Yeah! There's stuff happening around May 1968 anyway so i do not see why anarchists can't contribute to those types of events together? Surely we have things to talk about on that important anniversary?
 
Serious Anarchist conference

That doesn't sound like much fun. Have a frivolous anarcho-conference instead - one with a parking meter-smashing contest followed by a fox-cuddling session and then all off on the ferry in a Transit van for a bit of revolutionary fag-smuggling.
 
A Serious Anarchist conference is one where the agenda is developed by a series of mini delegate conferences. Not a free for all where anything goes which is a recipe for achieving nothing.
 
Attica said:
A Serious Anarchist conference is one where the agenda is developed by a series of mini delegate conferences.

Are there mini-mini-delegate conferences to 'develop' the agendas of the mini-delegate conferences?

Just how small does a would-be delegate have to be to qualify?
 
not sure whether this could be your 'serious anarchist conference' or not, but I've been very keen on the idea of hosting something in Nottingham for a while. something to compliment the Bookfair and things like the Projectile film festival.

would be very keen to hear if anyone thought this was a good idea.
 
peacepete said:
not sure whether this could be your 'serious anarchist conference' or not, but I've been very keen on the idea of hosting something in Nottingham for a while. something to compliment the Bookfair and things like the Projectile film festival.

would be very keen to hear if anyone thought this was a good idea.

You should have a look at Bristol Radical History who have a great event going on at the moment.
 
Strangeways said:
Is this thread a subtle plug for a newly launched magazine?

You can read it like that, BUT I have been arguing for MORE politics and conferences for some considerable time before Mayday came out. So I do not think it is, it is more a continuation of my critique of the anarchist movement as it currently exists.
 
So what marks out a 'serious' anarchist against a not-so-serious one then? Pointless use of words like 'praxis' where 'method' or 'action' would suffice?
 
kyser_soze said:
So what marks out a 'serious' anarchist against a not-so-serious one then? Pointless use of words like 'praxis' where 'method' or 'action' would suffice?


it's all worked out on how many people get lamped in the pub after, who by and how ideologically consistent their justification is. Very complex stuff, but we can trust Attica to run the figures. Nobody else is up to it, really
 
I'm glad we've someone like Attica to tell us all how anarchists should think quite honestly. Self-organising in the politically and philosophically correct manner is so difficult, especially when it comes to the most important decision - does my cell use an existing -ism, or invent an exciting new one of our own?
 
Attica said:
This has been standard anarcho praxis in the states for some time...

You really should drop the 'P' word mate, you're not doing yourself of the events you're trying to promote any favours by using it.
 
Attica said:
This has been standard anarcho praxis in the states for some time...

chico enrico said:
You really should drop the 'P' word mate, you're not doing yourself of the events you're trying to promote any favours by using it.

Actuals he should drop the xi and add a "t" before the "s".

Serious anarchist conference, it's easier to herd cats than to get a bunch of anarchists to agree on anything.

Unless Attica is there to tell us what to think, like.
 
So the thread quorum has decided that use of the word 'praxis' be stopped.

Let's see the level of commitment to listening to 'the people' Atty has...
 
kyser_soze said:
So what marks out a 'serious' anarchist against a not-so-serious one then? Pointless use of words like 'praxis' where 'method' or 'action' would suffice?

Non serious ones are those whose conservative (small c) practice does not change (whether they are in an organisation or not), it is the same old same old year after year, achieving nothing. It is also those non aligned keyboard warriors whose comments are only on the web, and who do not take part in the movements political life. Those who only turn out for the bookfair. Those who think living in a teepee is doing it, those whose efforts are geared only to environmental issues and dope, or punk and beer, or hunt sabbing and dope and beer etc. and so on. We need MORE politics/ political science/ magazines/ alliances not less.
 
Ah, so you're talking about lifestylists? Is that the correct term?

Got to agree with you...I see the repetitious links between single issue + dope&beer ;)
 
kyser_soze said:
So the thread quorum has decided that use of the word 'praxis' be stopped.

Let's see the level of commitment to listening to 'the people' Atty has...

'The people' are not the dirty half dozen on here, or had you not noticed? You know my posting style is not confined to those who post on U75 as that is an absolute minority, I base my ideas in the 'real world from real people'.

Praxis is more than a method or action, it has meaning all of its own. Any attempt to find an alternative is so far unsatisfactory.
 
kyser_soze said:
So the thread quorum has decided that use of the word 'praxis' be stopped.

Let's see the level of commitment to listening to 'the people' Atty has...

Ooooh Ohhhh can we do that hand signaling thing where you shake your hands in front of you when you agree with one of the points a person is making. That makes me feel all lovely and proactive so it does.

Alternatively this would be the smiley for Attica

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Does being a serious anarchist mean you loose your sense of sarcasm & humour?

It has to be said, for such a small word, it carrys a great burden when applied in the fully Marxist meaning of the word...still looks like uneccesary poli-sci jargon to anyone else tho...
 
Attica said:
Praxis is more than a method or action, it has meaning all of its own. Any attempt to find an alternative is so far unsatisfactory.

yes, like the word 'bamboozle' :)

only folk actually use that word and know what it means.

'praxis' sounds like the name of one of those weird looking deep sea fish or the term for what a colonic polyp becomes if it ruptures.
 
Overall the antipathy to the word 'praxis' is anti intellectuallism and a basic 'never heard of that' reaction. You cannot base politics on such short sighted ignorance though, as that is similar to the reductionism anarchists critisize the old left for.

In short, currently standards are not good enough to achieve anything and I and others want to improve them.
 
Oh god...I give in. After having felt totally confused by threads here and elsewhere...


WHAT THE FUCK IS PRAXIS?!

Google seems to say it's something to do with mortgages, and I found a bit on Wiki that I don;t really understand, can someone just explain simply what in the name of god it means and how it's relevant to anarchists? Thanks
 
Attica said:
'The people' are not the dirty half dozen on here, or had you not noticed? You know my posting style is not confined to those who post on U75 as that is an absolute minority, I base my ideas in the 'real world from real people'.

and i'm sure if you tried to discuss praxis with the majority of those real people in the real world, they'd either look at you blankly and wander off, or laugh in your face.

hate to tell you this, Attica, but the people who read your posts on urban are a better audience for your ideas that most people, even those posters who disagree with you.
 
scumbalina said:
Oh god...I give in. After having felt totally confused by threads here and elsewhere...


WHAT THE FUCK IS PRAXIS?!

Google seems to say it's something to do with mortgages, and I found a bit on Wiki that I don;t really understand, can someone just explain simply what in the name of god it means and how it's relevant to anarchists? Thanks

Praxis means doing stuff.
 
Dictionary, for normal usage:

Practical application or exercise of a branch of learning.
Habitual or established practice; custom.

Philosophical dictionary:

A term in use since Aristotle, to whom praxis is one of the three basic activities of human beings (the others being theoria, or theory, and poiēsis, or skilful manufacture). Praxis in Aristotle includes voluntary or goal-directed action, although it sometimes also includes the condition that the action is itself part of the end, an action done for its own sake. In Kant, praxis is the application of a theory to cases encountered in experience, but is also ethically significant thought, or practical reason, that is, reasoning about what there should be as opposed to what there is. Kant's placing of the practical above the theoretical influenced the subsequent thought of Fichte, Schelling, and Hegel. But it is in Marx that the concept becomes central to the new philosophical ideal of transforming the world through revolutionary activity. The subordination of theory to practice is connected with the inability of reason to solve contradictions, which are instead removed by the dialectical progress of history. Praxis is also connected with genuinely free, self-conscious, authentic activity as opposed to the alienated labour demanded under capitalism. See also false consciousness. This bold bit is what Atty is talking about.

Thesaurus:
praxis

noun

A habitual way of behaving: consuetude, custom, habit, habitude, manner, practice, usage, usance, use, way, wont. See usual/unusual.

Praxis (disambiguation)
Praxis may refer to:

Praxis (process), the process of putting theoretical knowledge into practice
Praxis (Eastern Orthodoxy), the practice of faith, especially worship
Praxis (band), a Bill Laswell musical project
Praxis (moon), a planetary body in the Star Trek universe
Praxis may also be:

Praxis, a genus of moth in the subfamily Calpinae
Praxis, one of the names of Aphrodite in Greek Mythology

See also
The Praxis, a novel by Walter Jon Williams
Praxis test, a teacher certification exam
Praxis school, a school of Marxist philosophy
This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title.

So as you can see, it's got a whole range of associations, from Marx to cheesy-but=readable sci-fi (I've got the 3 Praxis novels :D)
 
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