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selfish bastards kill dolphin in argentina

a mate of mine was telling me about being on a diving holiday in Bali over Christmas, there was a Russian amongst their group who had all the proper camera gear and was taking photos for some underwater photography competition.
He'd been seen handling and repositioning various creatures to get better shots, despite this being, so i'm told, the first rule of what not to do while down there as it will at best severely distress the creature or most likely kill it, and had been warned about doing it and asked to stop.
Then on a subsequent dive he'd found something spectacularly rare, i forget what, but apparently he'd got his shots them smashed it to stop anyone else being able to find it and shoot it. Everyone kicked off at him upon resurfacing and his response was literally 'so what?'
 
a mate of mine was telling me about being on a diving holiday in Bali over Christmas, there was a Russian amongst their group who had all the proper camera gear and was taking photos for some underwater photography competition.
He'd been seen handling and repositioning various creatures to get better shots, despite this being, so i'm told, the first rule of what not to do while down there as it will at best severely distress the creature or most likely kill it, and had been warned about doing it and asked to stop.
Then on a subsequent dive he'd found something spectacularly rare, i forget what, but apparently he'd got his shots them smashed it to stop anyone else being able to find it and shoot it. Everyone kicked off at him upon resurfacing and his response was literally 'so what?'

Should have smashed the twats camera so no-one could take a photo of the photo..... just to be on the safe side.
 
The thing that gets me about this is how well it demonstrates how totally separated from nature we have become.

I'm not being all noble savage about this, but it takes but the smallest modicum of common sense to realise that a dolphin, or a lion, or an eagle or a fish or a veal calf or a honey bee or a river or a steam or a glacier is, in and of itself, worthy of respect, because it is a Thing in the World. So when and how and why did we humans become so utterly separated from this knowledge?

The death of this creature is a shameful tradgedy. But I'd say it's also fucking tragic that so many humans around the globe are so totally devoid of respect and connection to other Beings and to Nature.

Some of my animal rights pals argue that we can't hope to expect that humans will be decent to each other while we are still being so hideous to the animals. It's chicken and egg though isn't it.
Hang on, isn't it our disconnect from nature that allows us to see nature as something other than a resource or danger.
 
Hang on, isn't it our disconnect from nature that allows us to see nature as something other than a resource or danger.

I see what you mean. In order to appreciate / respect nature as a Thing we have to see ourselves as outside of it, separate from it.

Is this tendency innate, or is it part of our trajectory towards being Homo sapiens?

I was actually thinking about this yesterday, in the context of what makes us different from other animals. Maybe the sole difference between us is our ability to imagine, to invent ideas or scenarios that have never existed or that we've never encountered and likely never will.

Would that account for this weird collective ability we have to foul our nest as we do?

Although that assumes that other creatures do not have the ability to imagine, which could be wrong too.

I've been looking at pictures of the trash and garbage we've dumped in the oceans and the forests, and that oil pipeline disaster currently Peru and feeling a sense of ..... well, almost wonder, I suppose, at our idiocy. It defies understanding except that we've been bewitched by Consumerism.

I don't know, just pondering really.
 
I see what you mean. In order to appreciate / respect nature as a Thing we have to see ourselves as outside of it, separate from it.

Is this tendency innate, or is it part of our trajectory towards being Homo sapiens?

I was actually thinking about this yesterday, in the context of what makes us different from other animals. Maybe the sole difference between us is our ability to imagine, to invent ideas or scenarios that have never existed or that we've never encountered and likely never will.

Would that account for this weird collective ability we have to foul our nest as we do?

Although that assumes that other creatures do not have the ability to imagine, which could be wrong too.

I've been looking at pictures of the trash and garbage we've dumped in the oceans and the forests, and that oil pipeline disaster currently Peru and feeling a sense of ..... well, almost wonder, I suppose, at our idiocy. It defies understanding except that we've been bewitched by Consumerism.

I don't know, just pondering really.

Interesting article on this topic here:

Dolphin Selfies and Performing Whales - Opinion - Sonar
 
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