selfish bastards kill dolphin in argentina

[Mr Moose]

Puts me in mind of the Cecil the lion story this. Much weeping and wailing, little acknowledgement of the fact we as a species mistreat, slaughter and casually drive animals to extinction as a matter of course.

Vanity though, that's what makes it worse than need or ignorance.

 

[xenon]

The thing that gets me about this is how well it demonstrates how totally separated from nature we have become.

I'm not being all noble savage about this, but it takes but the smallest modicum of common sense to realise that a dolphin, or a lion, or an eagle or a fish or a veal calf or a honey bee or a river or a steam or a glacier is, in and of itself, worthy of respect, because it is a Thing in the World. So when and how and why did we humans become so utterly separated from this knowledge?

The death of this creature is a shameful tradgedy. But I'd say it's also fucking tragic that so many humans around the globe are so totally devoid of respect and connection to other Being and to Nature.

Some of my animal rights pals argue that we can't hope to expect that humans will be decent to each other while we are still being so hideous to the animals. It's chicken and egg though isn't it.

#notallhumans

Mind you, I find this story hideous but I still eat animals. When the lab meat is safe cheap and good I'll give up eating dead things.

 

[fredfelt]

The thing that gets me about this is how well it demonstrates how totally separated from nature we have become.

I'm not being all noble savage about this, but it takes but the smallest modicum of common sense to realise that a dolphin, or a lion, or an eagle or a fish or a veal calf or a honey bee or a river or a steam or a glacier is, in and of itself, worthy of respect, because it is a Thing in the World. So when and how and why did we humans become so utterly separated from this knowledge?

The death of this creature is a shameful tradgedy. But I'd say it's also fucking tragic that so many humans around the globe are so totally devoid of respect and connection to other Beings and to Nature.

Some of my animal rights pals argue that we can't hope to expect that humans will be decent to each other while we are still being so hideous to the animals. It's chicken and egg though isn't it.

Self interest very quickly trumps any personal decisions on how much respect we feel we can afford other animals. For example often dolphins and tuna hang out together. Eating line caught tuna is a relatively sure way to ensure that dolphins are not netted at the same time - but that extra expense is reason enough to brush aside the consequences of our diet.

 

[Spymaster]

There is a certain mammal there are too many of and it's not dolphins.

Cats.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

The thing that gets me about this is how well it demonstrates how totally separated from nature we have become.

I'm not being all noble savage about this, but it takes but the smallest modicum of common sense to realise that a dolphin, or a lion, or an eagle or a fish or a veal calf or a honey bee or a river or a steam or a glacier is, in and of itself, worthy of respect, because it is a Thing in the World. So when and how and why did we humans become so utterly separated from this knowledge?

The death of this creature is a shameful tradgedy. But I'd say it's also fucking tragic that so many humans around the globe are so totally devoid of respect and connection to other Beings and to Nature.

Some of my animal rights pals argue that we can't hope to expect that humans will be decent to each other while we are still being so hideous to the animals. It's chicken and egg though isn't it.

I agree with you, though I would add that dolphins, lions, eagles etc are distinct from rivers, streams and glaciers in important ways and are therefore worthy of a certain kind respect. The former are not merely Things in the World, but Subjects in the World. Like human beings they are embodied subjects that have lives and experiences that matter to them, even if nobody else attaches value to them. Human beings routinely deny the moral significance of animals' inner lives when we override their most fundamental interests to satisfy the most transient and petty of our desires. This dolphin-selfie tragedy is a symptom of this institutionalised arrogance.

 

[DownwardDog]

And Jez would trust them with the Falklands.

 

[Teaboy]

And Jez would trust them with the Falklands.

Won't someone think of the penguins......

 

[Pickman's model]

Won't someone think of the penguins......

p-p-p-pick up a penguin

 

[Artaxerxes]

And Jez would trust them with the Falklands.

Argentinians lift up Island and pass it around till it dies of suffocation and dehydration​

"Why didn't you listen wails Maggies ghost?" Full story, page 94

 

[Mr Moose]

Cats.

Bastard! The answer was, in fact, Narwhals.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Here's another one:

A peacock at a Chinese wildlife park died after visitors enticed it with food, plucked its feathers and took selfies as they held it, domestic media reported.

The five-year-old male bird apparently dropped dead after it was manhandled by two groups of tourists at Yunnan Wild Animal Park in China’s south-west, according to the local Metropolitan Times.

“Peacocks are very difficult to get close to unless you entice it with food,” a park employee, named as Bai, told the newspaper.

“When a third group of tourists tried to catch the peacock, they were stopped by employees. But half-an-hour later, the peacock died," he said, adding that it was “frightened to death”.

Li Lei, the director of Oriental Animal Hospital in Yunnan, told the Global Times newspaper: “Birds are known to suffer from heart failure induced by a severe fright or shock.”

Peacock 'died of fright' after tourists tried to take selfies with it

 

[J Ed]

Here's another one:




Peacock 'died of fright' after tourists tried to take selfies with it

That is so sad, Chinese peacocks are beautiful creatures.

 

[sim667]

Guys pull struggling shark out of ocean to pose for photographs

man captures shark for photo

Mind you, its exactly what sports fisherman do with carp isn't it?

There are entire magazines which are essentially men posing with fish (anglers magazines).

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

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Mind you, its exactly what sports fisherman do with carp isn't it?

There are entire magazines which are essentially men posing with fish (anglers magazines).

Why? Carp are nuisance fish. There's tons of the things around here that we'd be glad to be rid of.

My father caught a big one once. In the spirit of "waste not want" not we had to eat it. We ended up canning it with a vinegar sauce to dissolve some of those tiny little bones.

 

[sim667]

Why? Carp are nuisance fish. There's tons of the things around here that we'd be glad to be rid of.

My father caught a big on once. In the spirit of "waste not want" not we had to eat it. We ended up canning it with a vinegar sauce to dissolve some of those tiny little bones.

So if I declare dolphins a nuisance mammal it excuses the behaviour of those tourists that killed that dolphin?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

So if I declare dolphins a nuisance mammal it excuses the behaviour of those tourists that killed that dolphin?

Oh, get a grip! I was wondering why anyone would bother to pose for a picture of one, not suggesting it's ok to torture animals.

 

[sim667]

Oh, please learn to read. I was wondering at bothering to take a picture of one, not suggesting it's ok to torture animals.

How do you think they capture the carp? Playing a penny whistle to attract them, then letting them individually jump into the fishermans arms for their moment of fame in anglers weekly?

I don't have a problem with catching them to eat them...... but interfering with them just to get a picture..... that can fuck off.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

How do you think they capture the carp? Playing a penny whistle to attract them, then letting them individually jump into the fishermans arms for their moment of fame in anglers weekly?

Yes, trophy fishing just to get a picture is wrong. But as for fishing for food, it's not any worse than what they do to farm animals before you eat them.

 

[sim667]

Yes, trophy fishing just to get a picture is wrong. But as for fishing for food, it's not any worse than what they do to farm animals before you eat them.

I don't disagree with that in slightest.

But I was quite clearly talking about carp fisherman, who tend to be trophy fisherman, very few people eat carp afaik (in the UK anyway).

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I don't disagree with that in slightest.

But I was quite clearly talking about carp fisherman, who tend to be trophy fisherman, very few people eat carp afaik (in the UK anyway).

No one around here deliberately catches carp. It's not a sport fish here (I still wonder at the concept). It's an invasive species. My dad caught one, so we ate it. We didn't enjoy eating it, but we did. End of story.

 

[Spymaster]

I don't have a problem with catching them to eat them...... but interfering with them just to get a picture..... that can fuck off.

They're not interfering with them just to get a picture. They're interfering with them for the sport of catching them and more often than not release them unharmed. Mostly, no pics are taken.

 

[sim667]

They're not interfering with them just to get a picture. They're interfering with them for the sport of catching them and more often than not release them unharmed. Mostly, no pics are taken.

I'm not sure I'd consider some prick putting a fish hook through my cheek a. sporting, b. unharmed.

 

[Spymaster]

Yeah, but you're not a fish.

 

[sim667]

Yeah, but you're not a fish.

And your point is?

 

[Spymaster]

And your point is?

That someone will always get upset by something!

 

[sim667]

That someone will always get upset by something!

Cool story.

 

[Spymaster]

Cool story.

Cool that there are people like you around to fight for fish rights, man!

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around sport fishing for carp. I'd never heard of it before. Carp are glorified goldfish!

 

[Spymaster]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around sport fishing for carp. I'd never heard of it before. Carp are glorified goldfish!

I can't get my head around eating them. They're fucking horrible.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I can't get my head around eating them. They're fucking horrible.

Agreed!