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two sheds
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And another thing …
Were you taking the piss with the three psychotherapy principles above, by the way? They actually look accurate enough but it’s interesting that there seems to be nothing that you can actually do about any of them, apart from having a long course of psychotherapy to ‘address’ them. Buddhism seems much more about a reliance on yourself than reliance on a therapist, which I think is much healthier myself.
‘Psychotherapy’ may be just one word, but it’s a bit unfortunate if it’s the name of the subject itself . It’s not just one word, either, how about psychometric tests: ‘measuring the soul’ – how does that work, then? You’ll be defending psychometry next
. And we’ve got id and ego and super-ego (or super-id can never remember) and subconscious/unconscious. Buddhists have words to describe their different concepts – you can’t avoid it – but I don’t really see psychology being more ‘scientific’.
As I say, wrap things up in latin and greek-based names and you accept without questioning that they’re ‘science friendly’. Another clue is you above quoting Heidegger and Freud etc. I didn’t respond because I admit to not knowing very much about western psychology/philosophy (just looks like head-up-arse hippy shit to me ). They are still at the authoritarian stage – they quote ‘authorities’ whereas science actually talks in terms of theories and laws. There’s loads of theories in psychology/philosophy but not many laws.
You laugh at karma, and I agree there are two dangers with it: (1) believing that we are what we are because of past lives and (2) assuming it is the reason other people are how they are (“the starving around the world only brought it on themselves’). Apart from them, though, the central principle would seem pretty useful as a basic law of human action - in general you get back what you give out.
So, the things you’re accusing Buddhism of are actually as bad or worse (because of its pseudo-scientific language) in psychology. Hence I referred to psychotherapy as ‘hippy shit’ (not a term I’d generally use myself but you started it
). It is also how a lot of people of the previous generation would view psychotherapy (you should just get a grip on yourself and get on with life … etc). I don’t agree with that either but there’s no real proof one way or the other apart from anecdotal evidence as far as I know. Nothing that would pass for scientific evidence.
Were you taking the piss with the three psychotherapy principles above, by the way? They actually look accurate enough but it’s interesting that there seems to be nothing that you can actually do about any of them, apart from having a long course of psychotherapy to ‘address’ them. Buddhism seems much more about a reliance on yourself than reliance on a therapist, which I think is much healthier myself.
‘Psychotherapy’ may be just one word, but it’s a bit unfortunate if it’s the name of the subject itself . It’s not just one word, either, how about psychometric tests: ‘measuring the soul’ – how does that work, then? You’ll be defending psychometry next
. And we’ve got id and ego and super-ego (or super-id can never remember) and subconscious/unconscious. Buddhists have words to describe their different concepts – you can’t avoid it – but I don’t really see psychology being more ‘scientific’. As I say, wrap things up in latin and greek-based names and you accept without questioning that they’re ‘science friendly’. Another clue is you above quoting Heidegger and Freud etc. I didn’t respond because I admit to not knowing very much about western psychology/philosophy (just looks like head-up-arse hippy shit to me ). They are still at the authoritarian stage – they quote ‘authorities’ whereas science actually talks in terms of theories and laws. There’s loads of theories in psychology/philosophy but not many laws.
You laugh at karma, and I agree there are two dangers with it: (1) believing that we are what we are because of past lives and (2) assuming it is the reason other people are how they are (“the starving around the world only brought it on themselves’). Apart from them, though, the central principle would seem pretty useful as a basic law of human action - in general you get back what you give out.
So, the things you’re accusing Buddhism of are actually as bad or worse (because of its pseudo-scientific language) in psychology. Hence I referred to psychotherapy as ‘hippy shit’ (not a term I’d generally use myself but you started it
). It is also how a lot of people of the previous generation would view psychotherapy (you should just get a grip on yourself and get on with life … etc). I don’t agree with that either but there’s no real proof one way or the other apart from anecdotal evidence as far as I know. Nothing that would pass for scientific evidence.It is also how a lot of people of the previous generation would view psychotherapy (you should just get a grip on yourself and get on with life … etc).
no because there is mountains of evidence that conditions such as schizophrenia are found in the population
whether or not we all agree on the efficacy of psychotherapy: shrug.
no because there is mountains of evidence that conditions such as schizophrenia are found in the population
whether or not we all agree on the efficacy of psychotherapy: shrug.the rest of your post was so hippyish that i can't really decide what to say about such.
'e.g. it's good to rely on yourself'. hardly exclusive to buddhism or liekly to exlcide psychotherapy.
yeah i'm sure once you've stripped away all the religious/mystical positings, then there is a decent person there. but i find it queer that you vouch for buddhism and not e.g. 'individualism'.
'e.g. it's good to rely on yourself'. hardly exclusive to buddhism or liekly to exlcide psychotherapy.
yeah i'm sure once you've stripped away all the religious/mystical positings, then there is a decent person there. but i find it queer that you vouch for buddhism and not e.g. 'individualism'.
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