Secret copyright treaty leaks and the internet. It's bad. Very bad.
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Obnoxiousness
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So you'd rather live in a world where the arts are not supported financially? Do you think that the film business, for example, will be able to sustain itself long term if it has to give away content?
longdog
What is it you can't face?
All that and me arse.
Companies need to realise that the internet is NOT a broadcast medium and stop acting as if it is.
Businesses are forever bitching about how they're not making as much money out of the internet than they think they are entitled to but they fail to realise that people pay their ISPs £30pm for a communication service not a conduit in to their homes for yet more inane advertising.
If businesses have content people are willing to pay for they might be able to make money out of it if they're lucky but if people can get the same content for nothing they're likely to be in trouble.
As a medium which allows people to search out suppliers of the products they want the internet has been a revolution but anybody who thinks there's a pile of money to be made from content is probably working to a business model that's not worth the Powerpoint presentation it was written on.
The only companies who have a right to a revenue stream from the internet are the communication companies that provide access. Everybody else needs to have something pretty extraordinary.
FridgeMagnet
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OK, so let's suppose for a minute that you had written a book, and it took you 12 months of your life to write. Then along comes a web site that publishes your book without your permission, thus effecting your royalty income. And this persistently happens for every book you write..... you would soon have to go and get another job.
Basically, we've all fallen into a culture of freeloading, and there was never any doubt that it would end.
Basically, we've all fallen into a culture of freeloading, and there was never any doubt that it would end.
that what?
Obnoxiousness
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I am astounded at your responses........ perhaps I am not expressing myself clearly enough?
You have all been freeloading. Paying your ISP is just for a connection. It doesn't give you any other rights or privileges beyond that. U75 is an exception to the rule as it doesn't carry advertising. But the MAJORITY of the internet is fueled by advertising, affiliate marketing and other mildly annoying, but essential things that pay for the servers, admins, web designers, content etc.
You have all been freeloading. Paying your ISP is just for a connection. It doesn't give you any other rights or privileges beyond that. U75 is an exception to the rule as it doesn't carry advertising. But the MAJORITY of the internet is fueled by advertising, affiliate marketing and other mildly annoying, but essential things that pay for the servers, admins, web designers, content etc.
Obnoxiousness
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Why should youtube have their own advertising banners placed next to content produced by XYZ Film Company?
Does XYZ Film Company profit or get any consideration when someone uploads their property onto a web site that gives them nothing.
Should youtube be making money off other people's content?
Does XYZ Film Company profit or get any consideration when someone uploads their property onto a web site that gives them nothing.
Should youtube be making money off other people's content?
Obnoxiousness
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I'm just as guilty for freeloading. It's just that I can see how freeloading is undermining lots of creative industries.
Obnoxiousness
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I'm not sure you can safely assume that cultural items "belong" to any particular person, in the sense you seem to be using the term
Why? I could rent a server in Russia or some other legally inaccessible place, and steal all the content off Urban75 and pass it off as my own. Throw a load of affiliate banners or whatever sponsors I could match to the content on the pages and I am sure you would all call me a thief, a freeloader and a cunt.
Which is exactly what I would be if I was dishonest enough to do it.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
longdog
What is it you can't face?
Absolutely it is
I pay my ISP to provide me with a connection to the internet the same as I pay my mobile company for access to the phone network and I don't expect either of them to try to 'monetise' my custom beyond what they get paid to do... provide me with a service.
If companies want to provide a service I want to use such as Ebay, Amazon, Google and so on then that's fine but if other companies want to throw money at a worthless business model then pardon me if my heart doesn't bleed when they go tits up
Obnoxiousness
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What kind of an idiot are you? That would never work!
I am attempting to illustrate my point..... using U75 as an example. So you don't think it would work? Why?
If the Editor put banners all over this site... he would certainly make money from it.
Obnoxiousness
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It's not a straw man. A lot of businesses rely on making money from affiliate marketing.
Obnoxiousness
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Impressive, but it is idealist nonsense.
Obnoxiousness
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A typical web site can produce revenue for years and years if it's got targeted niche traffic. Have the adverts on youtube stopped you using it???
Bob_the_lost
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