discokermit
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that's bollocks. mod was hard.
Secret Affair-Crap Not Crap?
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ALondonStation
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Mod. Mod revival. Punk is dead. The Business. Secret Affair.
Pass the wire scrubbing brush. Oh. And some bleach.
Pass the wire scrubbing brush. Oh. And some bleach.
editor
hiraethified
Yes, that's right dear. It was all tea and cakes at the Bridgehouse, Canning Town.
Jeez, I don't give much of a fuck about the mod revival and it certainly wasn't a particularly important musical trend, but there ain't 'alf some bollocks being spouted here.
ALondonStation
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^ what kind of cakes?
Mod was Hard? They wer tough? You, in particularly, was a Hard Man, was you?
Getting beaten up by skinheads doesn't constitute being "Hard".
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Mod was Hard? They wer tough? You, in particularly, was a Hard Man, was you?
Getting beaten up by skinheads doesn't constitute being "Hard".
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Being a thick cunt again aren't you!
Errr... where do you think skinheads came from? Have a wee bit of a dig for 'Hard Mods', ie the forerunners of skinheads there's a good little idiot.
editor
hiraethified
You're gibbering again.Mod was Hard? They wer tough? You, in particularly, was a Hard Man, was you?
Getting beaten up by skinheads doesn't constitute being "Hard".
Silly man. teenage gibberish. but coming from 40 year old man who identifies himself by a Youth Cult is about right.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
No, pointing out how your ignorance does you no credit. As for teenage, well you're the little mug using the 'hard man' cliche....
May I point out to you that it is, Editor, who, indirectly, has claimed to be "hard", which he clearly is not and has never been.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
You said....
Editor rightly pointed out that your silly cliched nonsense was exactly that....
Guitless simpering wimpy types you called them, editor simply refuted your claim. I then mentioned the 'Hard Mods' or 'Suits' as they were also called who were the forerunners of skinheads.
ouchmonkey
Singe Gainsbourg
time for action was a tune but generally pretty poor
yeah but no. it's name sprang from the term modernist but 'Mod' is something else, an attitude, a set of sartorial and musical aethetics, a subculture. so it can be revived. Your argument wouldn't apply to the near simultaneous ska revival or any other style - it's entirely linguistic and therefore nonsense.
However the idea that Secret affair should have described themselves as post-modern is pretty funny.
perhaps you are a dead pan comedy genius and I do you a disservice........
and on the other hand, recreations of the past do not, almost by definition, bring the spirit of adventure and discovery with them that made that past worth reviving.
if you see what I say..........
yeah but no. it's name sprang from the term modernist but 'Mod' is something else, an attitude, a set of sartorial and musical aethetics, a subculture. so it can be revived. Your argument wouldn't apply to the near simultaneous ska revival or any other style - it's entirely linguistic and therefore nonsense.
However the idea that Secret affair should have described themselves as post-modern is pretty funny.
perhaps you are a dead pan comedy genius and I do you a disservice........
and on the other hand, recreations of the past do not, almost by definition, bring the spirit of adventure and discovery with them that made that past worth reviving.
if you see what I say..........
editor
hiraethified
Could you detail their involvement in the mod revival and then perhaps explain the relevance of this idiotic 'hardness' argument?
Ta.
After living through the mayhem of punk, some folks fancied a change, while keeping the same kind of energy levels.
In his book How To Lose Friends and Alienate People Toby Young discusses his time as a Mod in some detail.
I witnessed Matthew Taylor's Mod-ism for myself, since I knew him at the time.
I've no idea of the relevance of the "hardness" argument. I didn't bring it up.
editor
hiraethified
So what's the relevance of Toby Young supposedly liking the mod revival? You are aware that he was far too young to have even got into the pubs and clubs at the time, yes?
I've no idea who Matthew Taylor is either or what his relevance is to the mod revival.
i don't know who Toby Young is but i see your point. Look at all the tossers who flirted with punk for example, or all the New Labour darlings who flirted with left wing politics, just because some CUNTS flirt with something cos it (at the time) is trendy doesn't make it shit...
No he wasn't. Born in 1963 iirc. Now that I think of it I knew him a bit too, but that was later.
Taylor is the Lib-Dem spokesman on wanking or something.
Both former Mods. Neither of them hard. Actually I can't think of a single hard Mod.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Martin Smith - rock hard.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Mod attitude was mainly based around style and music. Pete Meaden, face about town in the early sixties declared "Modism, Mod living, is an aphorism for clean living under difficult circumstances."
The first Mod movement came at a time when (working class) kids, for the first time, had a disposable income which gave them choices beyond that of their parents. They used this money in indulge in clothes, clubs, music, scooter...and drugs, and they discovered influences like the Jamaican rude boys, ska music and soul which they followed alongside British beat music, blues and jazz.
In short the Mod attitude was to avoid being dull and grey and enveloped by the post war grind, not dissimilar to the attitude that drove punk much later - it was kids wanting more than what was on offer and having it.
I don't think it matters if Mod was hard or not - it existed, like most youth cultures, in a whirlpool of fashion, music, violence and the draw of the crowd.
From the Mod movement came the Suedehead and the Skinhead movements, all of which nodded towards what became punk because these were people not interested in taking on hippy ideals, and were prone towards 'anti-establishment' (for want of a better phrase?) ideals.
The mod revival was an off-shoot of punk really, and many punk bands were covering old 'mod' songs already.
Two Tone and OI also developed out of the culture clashes between punk, skins, mods etc - so in short the movements were not clearly seperated, even if it appeared so for those within it, or presented like that in the press. The music and the fashion and violence were all a part of one another.
Punk probably had more posh kids taking part than the Mod movement.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
So what?
cozmikbrew
Bass case
Merton Parkas anyone?
Gary Bushell?
He was a Mod for about five minutes iirc. And he certainly said he was hard.
It's still a pretty paltry showing though. No wonder the rockers kicked their asses.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Julie Burchill?
She was only a mod for minutes etc
She was only a mod for minutes etc
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