Screamadelica

[ericjarvis]

Good record, but I would put their self titled album or Vanishing Point on the stereo in front of it.

I'm biased, but I rate Vanishing Point as there most interesting album, but Screamadelica, Give Out But Don't Give Up, and Xtrmntr, as their most coherent and listenable albums. I love the lot though. All so utterly different. I even enjoy Sonic Flower Groove as a historical curiousity or nostalgia fest.

I wish some of the pre-Primals Formica Tops stuff had been recorded though. Innes is amazing when he's simply blasting away at "simple" punk pop.

The thing that most amazes me is how much Bobby Gillespie has learned over the last couple of decades. Way back in the Communication Club/Living Room days, Innes was the "man most likely to" and Bobby close to the "man least likely to".

Anyhow. Great album by one of the best bands in the world, ever.

Though I admit I'm biased.

 

[Flashman]

Don't like it.

I still prefer Velocity Girl and the Drumming on Psychocandy

I didn't expect you to like it Soops

 

[ericjarvis]

Yeah that's the one. 'Jailbird', '(I'm Gonna) Cry Myself Blind', 'Funky Jam', 'Rocks' etc... good tunes.

Sure a bit Stones-esque but I liked it.

More than a bit Stones-esque. It's a deliberate attempt to make an album in a style that's kind of the Stones but a bit funkier. Apart from Rocks it doesn't have a song that matches the Stones at their best, but then nor do most Stones albums.

In a way it's my favourite Primals album. It's not their best. It was already hugely unfashionable even when it was recorded. But bugger it, it's fun. It gets a bum rap because so many people over hyped Screamadelica as more innovative than it actually was, and then got pissed off at it being followed by an album made primarily for the sheer joy of getting wrecked and playing rock and roll.

Again I'm biased. I have one of the gold discs of this one on my bedroom wall. It's one of my most prized possessions.

 

[Flashman]

Anyhow. Great album by one of the best bands in the world, ever.

Though I admit I'm biased.

Were you the drummer or summat? Fair fucks if you really like 'em.

Got some stories about Bobby one of which involves a stolen Celtic lighter in a Brighton pub.

Great album by one-of-the-wankiest-bands-ever-who-got-really-lucky-with-House-in-lots-of-peoples-opinions

 

[ericjarvis]

Their self titled is cruely overlooked. Most people don't even know it exists.

Thing is it isn't a particularly coherent sound. Almost all their other albums have a strong sort of "vibe" to them. Primal Scream doesn't. It gets dug out once in a while, but it's not an album I ever feel any burning need to listen to.

 

[kabbes]

We want to be free, to do what we want to do! We wanna get loaded, and have a good time.

 

[ericjarvis]

Were you the drummer or summat? Fair fucks if you really like 'em.

Never in the band, but knocked around the same scene when they were starting out. Did a whole bunch of gigs with Andy Innes's bands either headlining or supporting us. Met Bobby and Robert back then now and again too.

Got some stories about Bobby one of which involves a stolen Celtic lighter in a Brighton pub.

Great album by one-of-the-wankiest-bands-ever-who-got-really-lucky-with-House-in-lots-of-peoples-opinions

It's kind of a different picture if you follow the story all the way through from Laughing Apple. It's a bunch of talented and hard working blokes paying their dues for over ten years before getting a break when stuff they had been playing around with for a while suddenly became fashionable, and who then refused to simply jump on the bandwagon and release endless retreads of Screamadelica.

 

[Flashman]

Pretty seminal to me, the first 'dancey' album I owned. TBH, I really consider it more Weatherall's album than the 'Screams - they way it sounds and its originality is all down to him.

Reminds me, haven't listened to it in ages!

Sort of for me too, I finally succumbed to dance then. Although I did go to 20th Century in 1987 (which was the coolest club outside of Manchester for about a month that year) and had spliffs in the toilet and loved Chicago House but forgot about it for a bit.

And yes, put it on it's still ace!

 

[SpookyFrank]

Screamadelica is great, but considering the band at the time consisted of two guitarists and a singer you wonder how much input they had, given that most of the album has no guitar on it and most of the vocals are either samples or done by other people

Damaged has one of my favourite ever solos on it though. A great song that, and one that wouldn't have worked if a competent singer had done it.

 

[Flashman]

It's kind of a different picture if you follow the story all the way through from Laughing Apple. It's a bunch of talented and hard working blokes paying their dues for over ten years before getting a break when stuff they had been playing around with for a while suddenly became fashionable, and who then refused to simply jump on the bandwagon and release endless retreads of Screamadelica.

Don't talk to me about band stories.


There are better (Scottish) bands than them that have worked just as hard and didn't get the pay out; The Delgados for example who were magic and produced at least four GREAT records (Peloton, The Great Eastern, Hate, Universal Audio) on a shoestring and eventually had to split cos they couldn't afford to keep going anymore. Very sad but worthy cunts, whereas yer Primals might have started out hard but got lucky and still managed to produce shite thereafter.

 

[Flashman]

Screamadelica is great, but considering the band at the time consisted of two guitarists and a singer you wonder how much input they had, given that most of the album has no guitar on it and most of the vocals are either samples or done by other people

Damaged has one of my favourite ever solos on it though. A great song that, and one that wouldn't have worked if a competent singer had done it.

It's all Weatherall and that other cunt (Farley?).

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I didn't expect you to like it Soops

I've got loaded though. Eeep

 

[Flashman]

I've got the 12". B side is better IIRC.

 

[futha]

good band. massive fucking cunting cunt. Like El Jefe said I wanted to tick two options.

 

[5t3IIa]

Listening now

 

[Dr. Furface]

i wanted to tick Not Crap AND Gillespie is a cunt.

Same here!

 

[dodgepot]

some very good songs.

 

[killer b]

why do people go on about it being a 'house' album though? there's only one song on there which could concievable by considered house music...

 

[Lemon Eddy]

why do people go on about it being a 'house' album though? there's only one song on there which could concievable by considered house music...

It's not a house album. It's a damned decent, Andy Weatherall album. See aso Beth Orton's Trailer Park for similar loveliness.

 

[chico enrico]

His new album sounds like Big Audio Dynamite.

that kind of figures. he's rocking that kind of mark lemarr look these days. was a time when you couldn't go into a pub in the east end without him being on the decks playing old rock'n'roll stuff. which i hate. but that's evidently what he's into at the moment so all well and good to him. don't like screamadelica and think primal scream are utterly woeful but weatherall is a nice guy and a genuine 'music lover' of myriad genres.

 

[danny la rouge]

I liked it at the time, but haven't listened for years. When I hear some of the tracks on the radio, they tend to bore me a bit now.

I don't rate their other stuff.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

I think it stands up as a brilliant historical document of british music culture at the time if nothing else. It's all the music from the previous decades mixed with the 'now' club scene. Stones, Floyd, dub, hiphop, ambient and much else. It manages to escape their indie past beautifully.

Will it still be any good in a few years, dunno?

 

[purplex]

Fantastic album, timeless. Weatheralls a genius.
Never liked much else Primal Scream did.

 

[HobgoblinMan]

Thing is it isn't a particularly coherent sound. Almost all their other albums have a strong sort of "vibe" to them. Primal Scream doesn't. It gets dug out once in a while, but it's not an album I ever feel any burning need to listen to.

I disagree. It has it's rockers and it's spooky slow piano led tunes that work well together. Screamadelica, it could be argued, doesn't have a particularly coherent sound, I mean, it's a "House" or lysergic album and "Movin' On Up" and "Damaged" stand out from the rest of the albums overall sound taking away an element of coherent sound and flow.

It's still good though.

 

[Citizen66]

Are we talking the album or the song on the Dixie Narco EP?

Both are good imo. They should have put the song on the album.