Scotland-Ireland Bridge

Discussion in 'Scotland/Alba' started by Yossarian, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    There's been talk this week about a road and rail bridge from Larne to Dumfries and Galloway to create a "Celtic powerhouse."

    Bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland 'could create Celtic powerhouse' - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

    Apparently one of the many stumbling blocks is the fact that it would have to cross the Beaufort's Dyke sea trench, which was used as a dumping ground for more than a million tonnes of munitions, including "incendiary bombs containing phosphorus which ignite on contact with air, as well as chemical weapons, including mustard gas, tear gas, phosgene, and the nerve agents tabun and sarin."

    Ireland-Scotland bridge is scuppered by the MoD | The National
     
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  2. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    What's wrong with the Larne ferry?
     
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  3. maomao

    maomao 四月她爹

    Its capacity and speed.
     
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  4. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    But it's a ferry, so has charm.
     
  5. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge arbiter of taste and expert in all things right

    Your brain must be excessively charming then.
     
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  6. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge arbiter of taste and expert in all things right

    Hmm. Not sold. :D
     
  7. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    I like trains and the odd ferry.
     
  8. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Just extend Giants Causeway, pay for itself in no time with increased tourist capacity too.
     
  9. Supine

    Supine Rough Like Badger

    Just move Ireland closer to England and Wales. It'd fit snuggly. We just need to be careful not to crush the isle of man in the process.
     
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  10. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt & dyslexic cnut.

    When the government was looking to close the offshore pirate stations in the 60s, Radio Caroline used to play a piss-take sketch of a 'man at the ministry' proposing putting outboard motors along the west coast & shifting the UK a couple of miles to the east, thus bringing the pirates inside British waters. :D
     
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  11. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge arbiter of taste and expert in all things right

    If it wasn't for the Irish Sea so narrow with no reef,
    Dublin Lady wouldn't have to sit and weep all in her grief.
     
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  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It'll be a buzzword-spawned bridge!

     
  13. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    The sea, oh the sea is the gradh geal mo croide
    Long may it stay between England and me
    It's a sure guarantee that some hour we'll be free
    Oh thank God we're surrounded by water

    ETA Just c&p'd that, sure I remember a version with third line, 'God help the poor Scotsmen they'll never be free"
     
  14. copliker

    copliker ...

    Ian Paisley McPaisleyface Bridge
     
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  15. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    The Bruce had this idea ages ago. Turn the map around a bit and you can see ireland, a good chnk of scotland and surrounding areas as the main chunk of britain

    The Bruce was after complete dominion through bloody war against the saes rather than an economic powerhouse via a bridge. But the idea is the same
     
  16. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    His younger brother Edward was declared High King of Ireland, which I only learned a bit ago
     
  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I think urban75 needs a visual marker for the aspirations and ambition of a website in the 21st century and beyond.
     
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  18. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    "Time to brainstorm - what visual marker could we come up with to represent the concept of bridging the two countries?"
     
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  19. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

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  20. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    I take it you don't use it much then...?

    Also, a lot more boats go direct to the middle of Belfast now leaving Larne even more of a backwater than before.

    Am I right in remembering the big turbine factory in Larne has/is about to close? That will hit the place badly. :(
     
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  21. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    Same here but getting to Stranraer from almost anywhere in Scotland by train is a right pain in the arse. Never mind Cairnryan which is some miles beyond the end of the railway!

    In some ways a bridge/causeway is a great idea because IME the North Channel boats are unquestionably the 'odd' ferries!
     
  22. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    The MOD/British Gas borrowed our research boat to survey Beauforts Dyke back in the 1990s - what they found down and around (ie where it shouldn't be) put the wind-up them big time!
     
  23. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    I like how incendiary munitions washed up on the shores of Scotland and Ireland while British Gas were putting in a pipeline.

    Million tons of stuff dumped down there, including phosgene gas and radioactive waste.
     
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  24. seeformiles

    seeformiles Lost in the wood

    I don’t go back home (NI) often but when I have in the last ten years or so, I’m pleased to see that the ferry has speeded up considerably and heading straight to Belfast is wonderful. Larne is miserable (as is Stranraer) but I suppose it’s tough being a place where people only visit to go somewhere else :(. Mind you, as a kid, I enjoyed seeing the Ark Royal in various stages of being scrapped as we sailed past Cairn Ryan.
     
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  25. geminisnake

    geminisnake a complex mass of conflicting ideas

     
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  26. PippinTook

    PippinTook Well-Known Member

    You do know that time speeds up the older you get?
    :D
     
  27. seeformiles

    seeformiles Lost in the wood

    True - but as a kid it was at least 3 hours. Just under 2 is wonderful. Plus, as you say, the older I get the less time I have to waste :)
     
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  28. HoratioCuthbert

    HoratioCuthbert It's only silence failing

    That's proper fast, it's 1 hr 30 to Orkney but 2 hr 30 from Mainland Orkney to the most northern Isles. Aberdeen Ferry 6 hrs from here 12 from Shetland :(
     
  29. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

  30. seeformiles

    seeformiles Lost in the wood

    Crikey - I used to think the Liverpool to Belfast at 9 hours was pretty hardcore :eek:
     
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