School uniform
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Shippou-Sensei
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what can i say but sailor fuku for all ...
if your going toi have strange dress codes you might as well go all the way
if your going toi have strange dress codes you might as well go all the way
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I am so glad our school (high school) never had uniform. All the stuff they say about poor kids being bullied over clothes: not true. Kids will always spot non uniform things anyway - bags, shoes, phones etc.
Nearly everyone wore denim anyway.
I have heard of schools that have banned girls from wearing skirts because some of them were wearing them short. I wouldn't want to be made to wear trousers - it's not really fair. Especially since they obviously couldn't be bothered to apply their own dress rules re: skirt length.
Nearly everyone wore denim anyway.
I have heard of schools that have banned girls from wearing skirts because some of them were wearing them short. I wouldn't want to be made to wear trousers - it's not really fair. Especially since they obviously couldn't be bothered to apply their own dress rules re: skirt length.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
does the maxamum hight above knee rule discriminate against girls with short legs?
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Whatever the uniform is - if the school doesn't enforce it there will generally be more misbehaviour in other areas, IME. Schools where they're stricter about uniform, the kids tend to be more cooperative in other ways, although there's a chicken / egg question there.
Regarding blazers - in their favour it does mean every child has a jacket in winter - not always the case in sweatshirt secondaries (and there are a few down this way). Personally, I prefer the "logo'd sweatshirt / plain polo shirt / formal trousers (not leggings / jeans) and trainers" uniforms. Gives me less to have to pick them up for.
My school uniform was Purple. Purple Blazer, lilac open neck blouse, regulation a line skirt - all of which could only come from one outfitters. I didn't mind it, apart from the colour (we got a lot of flack on the buses because we were easily identifiable as coming from the grammar).
Regarding blazers - in their favour it does mean every child has a jacket in winter - not always the case in sweatshirt secondaries (and there are a few down this way). Personally, I prefer the "logo'd sweatshirt / plain polo shirt / formal trousers (not leggings / jeans) and trainers" uniforms. Gives me less to have to pick them up for.
My school uniform was Purple. Purple Blazer, lilac open neck blouse, regulation a line skirt - all of which could only come from one outfitters. I didn't mind it, apart from the colour (we got a lot of flack on the buses because we were easily identifiable as coming from the grammar).
chilango
Ha! Ha! Armageddon
spanglechick said:
Not sure about this.
I worked in a school with pretty bad discipline problems - assaults on staff etc. Management followed your argument and started with a uniform issue to enforce discipline, failed on this and lost control. Kids could see chaos in the school and were bemused by the emphasis on what colour coat they had to wear so ended up just ignoring all the rules.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
But that's it - I don't know if you can turn back time - just that where there has always been strictness, there is better behaviour. I think to do a real turnaround you'd need zero tolerance, incredibly well supported by the senior leadership / management team (senior staff)chilango said:Not sure about this.
I worked in a school with pretty bad discipline problems - assaults on staff etc. Management followed your argument and started with a uniform issue to enforce discipline, failed on this and lost control. Kids could see chaos in the school and were bemused by the emphasis on what colour coat they had to wear so ended up just ignoring all the rules.
It is very expensive and quite shoddy, i have had to re sew up trouser bottoms and sew on blazer buttons within days. the blazer cost £58 and it is so big that it comes down to his knees and the wide shoulders look great. the royal blue sets off his red hair and no matter how smart the uniform looks my boy seems to have cultivated this messy ambience. Can't put my finger on it it may be the walking around with such a heavy bag and huge blazer. They just introduced a uniform at my daughters primary. The school bought the uniforms and are selling them cheaply, they are cotton fruit of the loom tops and it makes life a lot easier in the morning. there's less washing (good for the environment?). £15 for two polo shirts and two sweat shirts with the logo on plus a really smart satchel. Bargin.
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wobbly
My kid's primary school sells logo'd aertex shirts for a tenner each, they really push the damn things onto us, as though they can enforce wearing of them. buggered am i paying that when my kid gets so dirty that i have to chuck 3 shirts a fortnight in the bin because they just will not get clean. he gets the cheapest white t shirts i can find, generally less than 1.50 each.
fractionMan
Custom Title
I thought the whole point of school uniforms is for kids to push the boundries as far as possible. I know I did.
AllStarMe
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When I was at high school we used to get sent home if you wore a skirt that was above your knee and apparently girls even got sent home for wearing black bras under their white shirts (although, that was always just rumours of so and so getting sent home for it, I didnt actually know anyone that did!).
I think its better to have uniforms and providing the schools arent stirct as to where the parents get the clothes from it's not as expensive as it used to be what with primark/tesco/asda etc.
I think its better to have uniforms and providing the schools arent stirct as to where the parents get the clothes from it's not as expensive as it used to be what with primark/tesco/asda etc.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
I hated school uniform I really did. I deliberately refused to wear it and was always punished by being made to stand with the divs and the nutters and the other anti social types like myself at the end of the dinner line becuase in my school if you didn't wear uniform you got dinner after everyone else.
electric.avenue
lots of work to be done
When I was 11 years old, just started high school, and having to wear a school uniform for the first time, we had a debate, instigated by the English teacher, about school uniform. I was one of the main speakers against school uniform. I said how it stifled individualism, and was unlibertarian. I argued that we should be able to wear our own clothes. I also pointed out that girls/women do not ordinarily wear ties. For fear of causing embarassment I probably did not point out that uniform requirements placed an extra financial burden on already hard pressed parents. (At our school, the kids from the poorer backgrounds stood out, as their parents could not afford to buy them complete uniform, with some even having to be kept off school until they could afford it, and, yes, they did get bullied over this).
And so many years later have I softened in my attitude, have I sold out? Do I now sing the praises of neat looking kids all arrayed in their identical boring mindless uniforms? No, I still stand by every word I said back then.
What is it about the agegroup 11-16 that older people feel they have to force them into uniforms? (And now even primary schools seem to be enforcing uniforms). How would older people feel about being deemed unfit to wear their own clothes?
The proof of the pudding is that other countries, such as Sweden, which has been mentioned, (and where I too have also lived), seem to cope quite well without school uniforms.
School uniforms are uptight, fuddy-duddy, traditional, reactionary and a waste of money.
And so many years later have I softened in my attitude, have I sold out? Do I now sing the praises of neat looking kids all arrayed in their identical boring mindless uniforms? No, I still stand by every word I said back then.
What is it about the agegroup 11-16 that older people feel they have to force them into uniforms? (And now even primary schools seem to be enforcing uniforms). How would older people feel about being deemed unfit to wear their own clothes?
The proof of the pudding is that other countries, such as Sweden, which has been mentioned, (and where I too have also lived), seem to cope quite well without school uniforms.
School uniforms are uptight, fuddy-duddy, traditional, reactionary and a waste of money.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
chilango said:
This was my main problem with the 'uniform enforcing' that went on at my (state) secondary school. I was a straight A student, kept my head down, never a bother to any teacher or pupil, but because I didn't want to wear a scratchy wool skirt and a shirt that was hot in summer and cold in winter I got constant hassle off the headmaster. While discipline generally within the school was a real problem. Easy target I think. In the end my dad wrote him a letter effectively saying 'my daughter has my permission to not wear uniform and there's not a damn thing you can do about it' which did shut him up.
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My dad has a bee in his bonnet about silly uniform rules from when he was growing up - he went to a school which was so strict about it that he got the cane for being seen around town wearing long trousers.... on a Saturday.... at the age of 12.
I never had a school uniform, ever!
*waits for someone to say 'that's cos you went to a poncy french school*
I have seen young girls wearing a miniskirt with no tights as their uniform and it can be a bit disturbing....
*waits for someone to say 'that's cos you went to a poncy french school*
I have seen young girls wearing a miniskirt with no tights as their uniform and it can be a bit disturbing....
Why, they wear Trakkies etc then?
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Can we kill it with fire.
Pardon!!?
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I'm standing close to the burn-to-a-crisp-o-matic. Very close.
