School expels kid for having gay parents

[Bob_the_lost]

So you also agree with the forcible imposition of our views on human rights, in Muslim countries, vis a vis treatment of women?

At what point did the USA become a mulsim country?

 

[Rentonite]

Well, at least at Christian schools the adolescent girls dont get gang raped for showing their hair......

Oh,,, uh ok one part at a time...

From what is sounds like the Christian schools policys where clear prior to the childs enrollment so, The lezbo parents Knew before hand that their situation would be un acceptable.
The christian schools are like clubs it is concidered "exclusive"
thats what the lesbian parents where buying when they chose to enroll their children in this school.
These schools are very expensive and require an incredible amount of effort and money to maintain a student there.
the school is doing business with the parents and teaching the child.
The school can do business with whom ever they want to.
You cannot force someone to sell something to someone they dont want too.
none of this has anything to do with the child.

Public education is avalible free to ALL children in the United States In fact it is required under law.
those parents that choose to enroll their children in reliegious schools or special schools ,prepatory schools are free to do so.
Those schools have the right to choose who they sell their product(education) too.
This story has been spun to agitate gay people in to thinking that somehow the child was discriminated against.
The child has nothing to do with it.
It is a transaction between the school and the parents
The parents failed to qualify and obviously by fraud had been able to get their children enrolled.
The fact that their disqualification has become known and the children are now no longer able to attend the school is embarassing for the kids to say the least.
and you want to blame the school? sorry, it wont wash.

oh and on the other part of this thread
what sort of Morality is it when young adolescent boys can gang rape a girl that shows her hair?
That is stone age thinking.
and France allows this? in their country?

I guess I should not be suprised, it is France after all

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Hell, if the school said "no black kids" then as long as the black parent knew it's fine!

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Hell, if the school said "no black kids" then as long as the black parent knew it's fine!

There are some private christian schools that do just that. Bob Jones University has denied admission to black students because they don't approve of interracial relationships.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

There are some private christian schools that do just that. Bob Jones University has denied admission to black students because they don't approve of interracial relationships.

What
The
Fuck?

Link, i find it hard to belive that 1) it happens 2) they aren't in court for it.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

What
The
Fuck?

Link, i find it hard to belive that 1) it happens 2) they aren't in court for it.

They've since revamped the policy because they got some negative attention:

Bob Jones University does, however, have a rule prohibiting interracial dating among its students. God has separated people for His own purpose. He has erected barriers between the nations, not only land and sea barriers, but also ethnic, cultural, and language barriers. God has made people different one from another and intends those differences to remain. Bob Jones University is opposed to intermarriage of the races because it breaks down the barriers God has established.

http://www.multiracial.com/letters/bobjonesuniversity.html

 

[Bob_the_lost]

They've since revamped the policy because they got some negative attention:



http://www.multiracial.com/letters/bobjonesuniversity.html

Land of the fucking fruitloops.

 

[Roadkill]

Late in the day, but...

Tbh I'm not at all surprised by the Christian school kicking a girl out because of her parents, and I'm mystified as to why they wanted to send her to a place like that in the first place. In their position, I'd do everything I could to keep a child away from that religious fundie bullshit.

Much as I disapprove of religious discrimination - and as a gay man - I agree with what poet says about this. Non-state schools can have pretty much what admissions policy they like, and I can't really see how to change that. That said, I do think that schools of that ilk shouldn't receive a penny in state funding, and there should be some control over what is taught.

As for the school that Yuwipi Woman references, with its policy on interracial relationships, well ... words fail me.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

A similar thing happened at a high school in Alabama. (Can't recall the school -- Randolph something) The principal made a policy prohibiting interracial couples at the prom. The shit hit the fan when a mixed race girl asked how that would effect her. She was told that the policy was there to "prevent mistakes like her parents made." Since it was a public school that didn't fly and the principal was replaced.

 

[Roadkill]

She was told that the policy was there to "prevent mistakes like her parents made."

By 'public school' I suppose you mean state school? If the head of a state school said that here they'd be under police investigation before you could say, 'racist.'

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

By 'public school' I suppose you mean state school? If the head of a state school said that here they'd be under police investigation before you could say, 'racist.'

Right. There should be some clarification of terms since they are different.

Public school in the US means a school that is paid for by public taxes and open to all by law.

Private school in the US means a school that is run by a separate entity from the government. It charges parents tuition which is supplemented by funding from a church or other organization.

 

[Roadkill]

Right. There should be some clarification of terms since they are different.

I thougth as much, but as you probably know, by some historical mischance, 'public school' in the UK means a private school, and 'private school' means ... well, a private school. There is some minor difference, I think, but nothing to matter.

Even non-state schools in this country couldn't get away with admissions policies like that, though.

 

[spring-peeper]

I thougth as much, but as you probably know, by some historical mischance, 'public school' in the UK means a private school, and 'private school' means ... well, a private school. There is some minor difference, I think, but nothing to matter.

Even non-state schools in this country couldn't get away with admissions policies like that, though.

But, surely, if the school is being funded by private individuals and organizations, they should have the right to set the criteria for admissions?

 

[Roadkill]

But, surely, if the school is being funded by private individuals and organizations, they should have the right to set the criteria for admissions?

That's what i said, isn't it?

Much as I disapprove of religious discrimination - and as a gay man - I agree with what poet says about this. Non-state schools can have pretty much what admissions policy they like, and I can't really see how to change that.

Accepting that's the case and thinking that it's okay are two different things though, are they not?

besides, that's on t'other side of the pond. I don't think any school here would be allowed an admissions policy based on ethnicity, and rightly so.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I thougth as much, but as you probably know, by some historical mischance, 'public school' in the UK means a private school, and 'private school' means ... well, a private school. There is some minor difference, I think, but nothing to matter.

Even non-state schools in this country couldn't get away with admissions policies like that, though.

You could make a case the since they are public accomodations similar to stores, restaurants and hotels, which are also privately owned, you couldn't discriminate and refuse service to anyone based on race in a private school either. I don't think the law has gone there yet and probably won't with the current Supreme Court.

 

[Roadkill]

You could make a case the since they are public accomodations similar to stores, restaurants and hotels, which are also privately owned, you couldn't discriminate and refuse service to anyone based on race in a private school either. I don't think the law has gone there yet and probably won't with the current Supreme Court.

Tbh I'm surprised that case hasn't already been made! As you say, though, can't see the current Supreme Court looking upon it with much favour - especially if the issue of sexuality were brought into it. But then, in both your country and mine, discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation isn't illegal anyway...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Tbh I'm surprised that case hasn't already been made! As you say, though, can't see the current Supreme Court looking upon it with much favour - especially if the issue of sexuality were brought into it. But then, in both your country and mine, discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation isn't illegal anyway...

I think eventually it will be made. They are old and slow (and predominately white). They recently declared it unconstitutional to execute minors and people with IQs less than 70. So they might catch up eventually.

Personally, I'm glad that people with those views have chosen to segregate themselves. Then they can interbreed as much as they please and stay out of the genepool at large. Having "Bob Jones University" on your resume says a lot about a person and their educational "attainment."

 

[Roadkill]

I think eventually it will be made. They are old and slow (and predominately white). They recently declared it unconstitutional to execute minors and people with IQs less than 70. So they might catch up eventually.

We can always hope!

Personally, I'm glad that people with those views have chosen to segregate themselves. Then they can interbreed as much as they please and stay out of the genepool at large. Having "Bob Jones University" on your resume says a lot about a person and their educational "attainment."

Up to a point I agree, but once they're outside the mainstream it becomes harder to keep a handle on what's being taught. Moreover, if people into this stuff are moving only in like-minded circles, they get no opportunity to seriously debate and defend their opinions. It runs the risk of becoming self-reinforcing.

And before anyone accuses me of trying to stamp out religious schools or something (obviously not you, Yuwipi Woman, but others spring to mind...), ask yourselves whether, in the light of recent events, you'd be happy to allow Islamist schools to teach whatever they like without let or hindrance...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

And before anyone accuses me of trying to stamp out religious schools or something (obviously not you, Yuwipi Woman, but others spring to mind...), ask yourselves whether, in the light of recent events, you'd be happy to allow Islamist schools to teach whatever they like without let or hindrance...

You can make the same argument about prayer in schools. Just because there is prayer doens't mean it will be your brand.

 

[pbman]

A similar thing happened at a high school in Alabama. (Can't recall the school -- Randolph something) The principal made a policy prohibiting interracial couples at the prom. The shit hit the fan when a mixed race girl asked how that would effect her. She was told that the policy was there to "prevent mistakes like her parents made." Since it was a public school that didn't fly and the principal was replaced.

But i doubt he was fired.

Their union is so strong, that even thats not enough.

 

[pbman]

I think eventually it will be made. They are old and slow (and predominately white). They recently declared it unconstitutional to execute minors and people with IQs less than 70. So they might catch up eventually.
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F*&*&* lowlifes used international opinion, as their constitional sourse.

What a joke of a court.

They no longer even pretened to follow the law.

 

[Rentonite]

I like the comparason to an Islamic school.
a christian school has the freedom to do as they wish.
as long as they maintain their accreditation who cares?

The issue of the parents (client) not meeting the school requirements
and omitting attributes that would disqualify them (Fraud)
the business requirements are set by the business, it is after all,
THEIR business
a private school is a business NOT a public institution, So what they do is their business.
How a bout ya try to make Muslim schools accept women? or teach ANY type of tolerance to anyone that is not Muslim?
or to teach something that IS NOT in the Koran........
Mmmmm
this story has been so spun just to get gay people angry when it doesnt have anything to do with gay or straight issues.
once again it is a (make people that do not choose to associate with gay people BAD) type of situation.

dont cha luv my sentance structure

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

dont cha luv my sentance structure

Not really. It makes Americans look as stupid as Europeans accuse us of being. Stop being a fucking stereotype.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

A contract that is probably illegal is not one i'd be to worried about keeping to.

 

[Poi E]

How a bout ya try to make Muslim schools accept women?

They do, ya plonker. Here's a list: and they're in your homeland mwahahaha

Get back to your budweiser.