SchNEWS activist newsletter calls it a day
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Blagsta
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In Bloom said:
I don't know about these days, but back in the 90's I used to see it at colleges, universities, workplaces, community centres, clubs, raves. Places where everyday people go. The only place I've ever seen Resistance is in Forbidden Planet bookshop.
chegrimandi
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this is a discussion board no? schnews is not some scared cow beyond criticism. Its perfectly valid for in bloom to criticise it as not necessarily relevant to a huge number of people. Its a great resource for people interested in activism. It's ok to say it might not reach out to a broad set of people. Just like its ok to say that most organisations on the 'left' are pretty much irrelevant to most people.
Not everything has to turn into a polarised slanging match.
Not everything has to turn into a polarised slanging match.
chegrimandi
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editor said:
thats my interpretation of the thread having read it - after an observation from in bloom - one which is perfectly valid - some posters have felt the need to attack in blooms actions/org and defend schnews. seems a bit unnecessary.
Dic Penderyn
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mattkidd12 said:
well cafes & clubs isn't exlusive to 'the coverted'...
Round my way I put copies in record shops and give them out at gigs. Certainly most people who pick them up are far from 'the converted' just 'the curious' which is as much as we can hope for with 99% of political propaganda.
Dic Penderyn
Newport Civic Pride!
Interestingly i also put out Resistance in these places (as well as the VERY EXCELLENT 'Gagged!', ahem..) and it goes much less quickly and much more to 'political' 'converted' types. schnews in my experance is one of the better activist publications in being accepted by people outside politics, I'd say the best since Class War.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I like Schnews but accept that too much of the distribution might be going to the converted. However to 'blame' Schnews or the people involved in putting it together/distribution is to confuse cause and effect.
The reason Schnews (and any other anarcho/direct action publication) isn't getting 'out there' is the state of the movement itself. There's ben a definite down turn from the mid 90s - and even from the period just before 9/11. Its that down turn - the reduction in activism and campaigning - thats at the heart of this. There's less campaigns, less participation in workers struggles - all of which (along with social spaces) were the places where any kind of literature would be distributed. Its involvement in those kind of things that gives people the self confidence to move outside of activist ghettos. Where copies of Schnews end up is almost a barmeter of the movement.
The reason Schnews (and any other anarcho/direct action publication) isn't getting 'out there' is the state of the movement itself. There's ben a definite down turn from the mid 90s - and even from the period just before 9/11. Its that down turn - the reduction in activism and campaigning - thats at the heart of this. There's less campaigns, less participation in workers struggles - all of which (along with social spaces) were the places where any kind of literature would be distributed. Its involvement in those kind of things that gives people the self confidence to move outside of activist ghettos. Where copies of Schnews end up is almost a barmeter of the movement.
4thwrite said:
Not only that and "politics" has a horrible image/meaning attachment, being concerned about public services, town planning, transport, health consequences because of dire industrial standards of companies, and the extreme poverty which is easily preventable....is like having an old fashioned mobile.....it's something that's percieved that you're supposed to grow out of....it's immature, it's teenage rebellion, it's student crap, it will lead to chaos and destruction (as if there's no chaos and destruction under the current social system... hiroshima, nagasaki, tokyo bombing and the near genocide of the vietnamese and now iraqi's....more iraqi's have been killed in the ongoing occupation than the numbers killed by all weapons of mass destruction in all of history.....)
It's also the feeling of cynicism, pessimism, and the powerlessness, segregation of society through fashion, snobbery, bigotry, and the fact that people are preying on each other over crumbs rather than sticking together and aiming at the buisness/"ultra idle rich" class for a larger slice of the pie...
I wonder, I was about 5-10 at the time the criminal justice bill was introduced and the failure of the poll tax uprising (Which I think was a direct cause of not enough grassroots organisers and the hijacking of people, energy, frustration by the damn Socialist Worker's Party....I met a journalist at a Haringey NHS demonstration and he was from cambridge having studied physics there...dressed in black and acted with a callousness towards the residents.....) The CJB must of had a really bad affect....and maybe the pouring of a lot more money into the Media/Public Relations industries....and the commercialisation of traditionally alternative/punk/activist towns.....does anyone else have any ideas?
Col_Buendia
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Yep.
And say it out loud - it's word play, sounds like "Snooze" - a comment (imo) on the nature of most news reporting. As Bill Hicks said, "Go back to sleep America, nothing's wrong..."
And say it out loud - it's word play, sounds like "Snooze" - a comment (imo) on the nature of most news reporting. As Bill Hicks said, "Go back to sleep America, nothing's wrong..."
in bloom you make me laugh, you spent your life seemingly slagging off what you call lifestylers on here, then you come out and plug resistance, possibly the most introverted, self referential and frankly boring political newsheet ive ever seen
resiatnce is the perfect example of how to completely alienate the working class, by boring them to tears and attempting to preach to them about what they should be concerned about
im willing to bet that schnews would go down far better than resistance in any working class pub, purely because its written in an entertaining and professional way and doesnt bore people senseless about minor local strikes and unknown activists in jail
im about as news hungry as they come, but i rarely make it through an issue of resistance, and its only four pages ffs
resiatnce is the perfect example of how to completely alienate the working class, by boring them to tears and attempting to preach to them about what they should be concerned about
im willing to bet that schnews would go down far better than resistance in any working class pub, purely because its written in an entertaining and professional way and doesnt bore people senseless about minor local strikes and unknown activists in jail
im about as news hungry as they come, but i rarely make it through an issue of resistance, and its only four pages ffs
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
clmk said:
The CJB politicised a lot of people. It got a lot of people, who wouldn't have otherwise, involved in the environmental direct action and then on into other political action. A lot of the networks built during the CJB campaign led onto the J18 and anti-capitalist campaigns. RTS started making links with the striking Liverpool dockers and striking tubeworkers. It was all taking off and then...9/11 happened, which seemed to take a lot of the energy away and refocused a lot of things.
Col_Buendia
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pk said:
Apart from sneering, have you anything of interest to contribute to the discussion here?
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