Saudi paedo to be beheaded & crucified!

[danny la rouge]

(just because they say so, it must be true ).

Yes, using the rolleyes smiley all the time makes me want to discuss this with you.

I'm well aware that mental health industry is used as a social policy mechanism.

 

[army_of_one]

Sure. That's why most child abuse isn't paedophilia, because that stuff's just 'normal'.

I sincerely hope that you're trolling, but if not, indulge me.

Say those words that you just typed out loud to yourself. Once you've done that reply with whatever you feel.

 

[Corax]

People who can't empathise are irredeemable. They've lost their humanity. They're not ill, and they can't be 'cured'.

So... what are they? Just 'evil'?

 

[danny la rouge]

People who can't empathise are irredeemable. They've lost their humanity. They're not ill, and they can't be 'cured'.

But they are abnormal, by definition. Which is the point.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

I sincerely hope that you're trolling, but if not, indulge me.

Say those words that you just typed out loud to yourself. Once you've done that reply with whatever you feel.

Why? That's what the WHO says?

 

[army_of_one]

Troll.

Where's my fiver?

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

But they are abnormal, by definition. Which is the point.

But is psychopathology the correct paradigm?

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

So... what are they? Just 'evil'?

Maybe some of them have a birth defect that can be prevented, or another physical problem, but I think some people make that choice. Maybe we don't give agency and the fact that people are radically diverse enough credit?

 

[danny la rouge]

But is psychopathology the correct paradigm?

In what way do you mean "correct"?

 

[Corax]

but I think some people make that choice.

Okay, so you think that some people choose to be atracted to pre-adolescents, and choose everything that goes with being a paedophile, both socially and morally.

What does that say about their capacity to make decisions?

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

Troll.

Look it up, if you don't believe me.

 

[army_of_one]

Look it up, if you don't believe me.

Since you pattern yourself after the scholar why don't you teach me?

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

Okay, so you think that some people choose to be atracted to pre-adolescents, and choose everything that goes with being a paedophile, both socially and morally.

What does that say about their capacity to make decisions?

Do they choose the attraction? But no-one chooses sexual attraction, they choose sexual behaviour.

 

[weltweit]

Paedophilia is no more a mental illness than homosexuality.

He wasn't punished for that, though.

I don't think homosexuals will like being compared to paedophiles.

 

[Corax]

Do they choose the attraction? But no-one chooses sexual attraction, they choose sexual behaviour.

Well you said they fucking did.

If you can't even troll consistently, how about you just fuck off.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

I don't think homosexuals will like being compared to paedophiles.

The same goes for every other sexuality. It's all natural (or not...).

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

Well you said they fucking did.

If you can't even troll consistently, how about you just fuck off.

I was talking about sociopathic people.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

Since you pattern yourself after the scholar why don't you teach me?

"A persistent or a predominant preference..."

 

[army_of_one]

Okay, I'll indulge you.

Do you think it is perfectly normal look upon a three year old child and experience sexual arousal?

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

Okay, I'll indulge you.

Do you think it is perfectly normal look upon a three year old child and experience sexual arousal?

Of course it's not. But that could be anyone, not necessarily a 'paedophile'.

 

[army_of_one]

"A persistent or a predominant preference..."

Uh..., the news report stated "children", while only describing his youngest victim.

Children being the plural of child I assume that to mean that there was more than one. Or even two.

Kinda meets that "persistent or a predominant preference...", don't you think?

 

[danny la rouge]

Okay, I'll indulge you.

Do you think it is perfectly normal look upon a three year old child and experience sexual arousal?

I think all he's trying to say is that "I can't help it" isn't an excuse. What he's ignoring is that nobody is saying it is an excuse, any more than being heterosexual means you have to rape women.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

My point isn't that he doesn't meet the definition - it's the construct and its definition itself that is problematic.

But this is the only problem right?

 

[army_of_one]

.

 

[Corax]

Are you fucking serious?

Nah.

This has to be a troll and I'm done.

Same.

Although maybe self-styled 'challenging poster' or 'devil's advocate' instead of pure troll, not sure.

 

[danny la rouge]

My point isn't that he doesn't meet the definition

You're saying that the bloke in the story in the OP isn't a paedophile?

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

I think all he's trying to say is that "I can't help it" isn't an excuse. What he's ignoring is that nobody is saying it is an excuse, any more than being heterosexual means you have to rape women.

That is one problem. The main one is that it de-simulates pedaphilic sexuality as an embedded problem.

 

[Corax]

LOL.

 

[danny la rouge]

That is one problem. The main one is that it de-simulates pedaphilic sexuality as an embedded problem.

Would you like to re-word that into something I can make sense of? Cheers.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

You're saying that the bloke in the story in the OP isn't a paedophile?

Well, not necessarily. I don't believe in this category. Ask: Does he meet all of the conditions for it? It's possible that he doesn't.