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SatNavs reduce sense of location

My work smartfone has a TomTom installation on it. I've never really used it, apart from going "look, it's a TomTom".

There's two main reasons for this:

1) The phone is shit and tucked away in my drawer, doing nothing
2) I know my way around mostly, or make preparations when I don't

I really don't get the whole SatNav fad, but hey, whatever's good for ya...

Why's it a fad - 'cos you don't get it?

Typical usage for me is say visiting a mate's new house:

"What's your postcode?"
"SE25 345"
"Cheers, see you in... erm... 7 minutes apparently"

Turn left
Turn right
Turn left
Straightover at roundabout, second exit
Turn right
Turn left
You have arrived

Brilliant. No need to look at a map, no need to wonder about one-way systems; just plug it in and go.

What's not to love?
 
Actually, I'd say it might even help improve your knowledge of an area's roads. If you're driving around and you have road names dynamically displayed on your screen it helps you piece your mental map of a place together.
 
Why's it a fad - 'cos you don't get it?

Typical usage for me is say visiting a mate's new house:

"What's your postcode?"
"SE25 345"
"Cheers, see you in... erm... 7 minutes apparently"

Turn left
Turn right
Turn left
Straightover at roundabout, second exit
Turn right
Turn left
You have arrived

Brilliant. No need to look at a map, no need to wonder about one-way systems; just plug it in and go.

What's not to love?

Personally, I know where my friends live, and don't really need any help getting there.

However did you manage beforehand? You know, like... 2 years ago? :D
 
Personally, I know where my friends live, and don't really need any help getting there.

However did you manage beforehand? You know, like... 2 years ago? :D


I worked it out by looking at a map.

How did people wash clothes before washing machines? How did people travel from place to place before cars? How did people communicate long distances prior to the advent of the telephone?

For an IT pro, you ain't half a luddite ;)
 
I love mine but only use it when I'm driving alone and usually trying to get to an office in a city centre that I don't know very well - looking at maps in those circumstances is pretty impossible and unsafe.
 
Personally, I know where my friends live, and don't really need any help getting there.

Personally, I make new friends all the time, and they live all other the place :p

And yeh, you are a fucking luddite for a so-called geek :p
 
Oh, I'll bet I've got way more gadgety stuff than both you two. Put together... :p

However, I wasn't criticising other people for having them, just explaining why I don't use one. Jeez.
 
Oh, I'll bet I've got way more gadgety stuff than both you two. Put together... :p

However, I wasn't criticising other people for having them, just explaining why I don't use one. Jeez.

How dare you differ from others? How very dare you?! :mad:
 
I fucking hate SatNav systems, and the people who rely on them.

I was doing a job in Birmingham and had to travel with two sales guys who had rented a car.

Took them three hours to drive from Waterloo to Soho.

They pick me up, I'm pissed off because the client in Brum will be waiting, so I tell them how to get from Soho to the Archway to join the M1.

They switch the satnav on and it's trying to get them to go via Hyde Park.

I'm telling them to ignore it and go my route, we're late already.

They're just blindly believing the satnav.

I am really starting to lose it, so when they head towards Kensington I tear the thing off the window and tell them they're going my way or I'm hopping on a train and they ain't getting paid.

Sure enough, we're out of there in minutes and onto the M1.

Then on the way back I let them have their satnav back - what harm can it do right?

Wrong. Stuck in North London whilst this thing is directing them all over the place.

I love it when they direct people onto railway tracks or into the sea - it serves them right!
 
It's another classic sat nav story tbh.
All depends on how much common the user has doesn't it?

I've got one and use it in conjunction with my brain.

On another note about getting enjoyably lost - you still can with sat nav.
Go to the route options and switch off all roads apart from minor ones, then punch in your location & hit go.
I had a wonderful drive through the back lanes of Piedmont, Italy recently by doing this and saw stuff I never would have done normally & still got to my location just fine & un-stressed :)
 
They can be fucking useless in the country where one postcode covers a vast area. But my friend's one was brilliant when we were trying to get to a pub before the 2pm cut off for food orders and we would have got hopelessly lost without the satnav. I'm tempted to get one for when I'm driving on my own (which is most of the time tbh). I really hate pulling over and looking at the map :o
 
Interesting thought re. SatNavs (and simplified roadmaps) - that people's awareness (and appreciation and enjoyment) of their locale is destroyed by using such devices.

There also obviously more dangerous than mobile phones. A high proportion of drivers just follow the instruction blindly until they crash. Then there are the idiots that attach the devices to the windscreen creating a blind spot in the most important area of their view - directly ahead.
 
Don't have one, don't want one. My son's friend has one and used it to visit us. It told him our house didn't exist(a row of 12 houses) and that he was driving in a river :hmm: :rolleyes:

Think it was a tomtom, they obviously still need a bit of tweeking!!
 
Mines been an absolute boon when driving in cities I'm not familiar with. I am usually alone and with one way systems and multiple bloody lanes and whatnot it makes lives oh so much easier. I can find my way perfectly well by myself to London for example (which I really don't know at all), but to find my way to my destination is a fucking nightmare without good ol' Tomtom.
 
I don't have one, or a gps phone either.

If I know the postcode of where I am going I will use the AA routefinder which permits me to print out directions which I can take with me. Always gets me to within 50m of my target so pretty good.

I do still use maps though.


How could we have survived before GSM, GPS, SatNav etc how could people have travelled the world? but they did, extensively.
 
I love my tomtom. I put the postcode for west pennards in when we went to glastonbury and it got us on the route for the west car parks without hitting any diversions or festival traffic. It did take us down a couple of scary little lanes but it was :cool:

The absolute best bit was when we got to a dairy farm the tomtom mooed!!
Magic Sam and my mate refused to believe it wasn't me, then it did it again. :cool: :D :cool:

Also, trying to get round bristol to a friends house it was brilliant. I find bristol really confusing and couldn't have kept pulling over because it was so busy.
 
IMHO satnav is a supplement to maps and local knowledge, but better not used on its own. The mincab drivers in this area used to rely on knowing the area and occasionally glancing at an A-Z, now more and more of them can't find their way to this address because their ****ing stupid satnav doesn't recognise the postcode of a flat on part of an estate which has been in S London since the 70s. One of them even (on a return journey), asked me to input the road name as well as the postcode, and the satnav still came up blank.

It didn't recognise the name of the main road either.:rolleyes:
 
Brilliant. No need to look at a map, no need to wonder about one-way systems; just plug it in and go.

What's not to love?

Fine if you live in an area with good coverage but up here, away from urban areas, a satnav can get very flakey indeed & the number of drivers stuck up wee lanes or hill tracks instead of the main roads has apparently rocketed.

It is like they give some drivers the perfect excuse to put their brains even further from the road. :(
 
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