[Sat 28th Oct 2017] London Anarchist Bookfair (London)

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by Kate Sharpley, May 30, 2017.

London Anarchist Bookfair
Start Date: Sat 28th Oct 2017 10:00 AM
End Date: Sat 28th Oct 2017 07:00 PM
Time Zone: Europe/London +01:00 BST

Location:
Park View School
West Green Road,
London N15 3QR

Posted By: Kate Sharpley

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  1. imposs1904

    imposs1904 Thread Killa'

    The SPGB believe in the conquest of Parliament . . . using the vote, etc. The organizers of the AB have always been firm but polite when turning down the SPGB's request for a stall, and that's fair enough in my opinion. To paraphrase the words of the old pop classic, 'It's their Party and they'll invite who they want to . . . "

    Of course every year a few 'suspect' stalls slip through the net in contravention of the AB door policy, but that's just the way it is. No need to get hot and bothered about it.
     
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  2. Humirax

    Humirax Guest

    I'm not getting 'hot and bothered' about it, just expressing my thoughts on the matter.
     
  3. imposs1904

    imposs1904 Thread Killa'

    No offence intended. I know a few SPGBers get hot and bothered about it . . . and I know when I used to apply for a stall for the SPGB back in the 2000s I would get a bit pissed off about it but, as I mentioned above, the organizers were always polite and up front about it.
     
  4. Humirax

    Humirax Guest

    I see what you are getting at regarding the SPGB but at the same time Class War have stood in elections and they are allowed in. Anyway, I don't want to bang on about it all day. I take your point.
     
  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I found the Bray book a disappointing rush job (it uses GCSE texts for it's history of Fascism for example) has many shocking factual errors (two examples: the french state killed hundreds of people in crushing the paris commune apparently - and that red action was a man u football firm) contains serious misreadings of contemporary fascism (i.e the french new right centered on de benoist's ideas are based on biological reductionism when they're based on cultural affirmation) - and most importantly, throughout is the implicit idea that anti-fascism's role is to pressure the state to do something about fascism - the difference is that he doesn't condemn illegal or violent action's role in apply that pressure. With all those problems it's still a better book than Against the Fascist Creep.
     
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  6. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    Think you'll find cw have always stood as a stunt rather than in any belief change can come through parliament
     
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  7. Sea Star

    Sea Star have you ever explored your dark side?

    Here's an account I trust. Mumsnet are known for their transphobia and I doubt any of them were there.

     
  8. weepiper

    weepiper Jock under the bed

    Mumsnet. Well-known transphobes. Right.
     
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  9. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    just to be clear i didnt post the mumsnet link for the narrative, rather for the twitter links included
     
  10. Sea Star

    Sea Star have you ever explored your dark side?

    Site is full of transphobia. Unmoderated. And I have been personally attacked on there.

    I didn't say transphobes. I said transphobia.
     
  11. weepiper

    weepiper Jock under the bed

    Why do you even want to post on there?
     
  12. Sea Star

    Sea Star have you ever explored your dark side?

    I don't. They found my blog. Although. As someone who has been a parent why shouldn't I?
     
  13. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    The mayday4women domain on that leaflet was registered on Friday.
     
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  14. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

  15. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Unknown member

    Traumatized oppressed people shouting 'fascist' at traumatized oppressed people is always going to end well.

    I was there Sea Star, and that article you posted is full of factual inaccuracies.
     
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  16. Sea Star

    Sea Star have you ever explored your dark side?

    Presumably she'd by fine if Tory women were there handing out leaflets then.

    And no! Don't tell me Helen Steel is a TERF. Another hero bites the dust. :(
     
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  17. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Unknown member

    That's an idiotic extrapolation to make.
     
  18. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Just to be clear are you saying that anyone who argues that people have the right to distribute the linked leaflet is a TERF?
     
  19. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    Hmm. That seems to be some lewisham council offices. :confused:
    Weird, but had it been someone's house I'd ask you what your intention was in posting up that info.
     
  20. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Council Estate Socialist

    Why not give a first hand summary then?
     
  21. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Unknown member

    Argue/disagree (even in some cases just try to discuss) with some trans people = you're TERF/transphobe. Largely not a helpful formula. Pathetic state of what passes for some of anarchism.

    It's also not going to end well for many trans people as they're going to find themselves treated worse due to the fucking ridiculous attitudes and behavior of some of their 'comrades'.
     
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  22. Sea Star

    Sea Star have you ever explored your dark side?

    Prosecute
     
  23. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Would that be the same Tories who are pushing through this bill?
     
  24. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Unknown member

    Prosecute who? What are you on about?
     
  25. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    [address removed by request]
     
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  26. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    I'm curious as to who the people behind the organisation are, and why they appear to be working out of a council building.
     
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  27. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    What? Are you saying the author of the leaflet should be prosecuted because they used what could be their work address? Seriously?
     
  28. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Because it’s a hate crime, I’d wager.
     
  29. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Lots of groups use the centre what with it being a community resource. It doesn't mean they all work there.
     
  30. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Council Estate Socialist

    Just so you know it's a fucking ridiculous suggestion that you posted that info in an attempt to cause problems for them in any way. :thumbs:

    I checked them out this morning before heading off to the gym. I also checked out their FB page and have liked it so that I can observe them as I have never heard of Mayday4women before. If I had posted up the info/address would I have been accused of targeting them in a suspicious way?
     
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