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Sanctions on Israel - YES/NO

Normally I am instinctively nervous about boycots against Israel as they CAN originate from a right-wing "don't buy from jews" attitude.

However in the current situation I think an arms embargo on Israel would be a good thing, as they seem to have completely lost the plot regarding what is acceptable use of force.

That is what I said.
It is the only thing that would tone them down in the long run, but think about the loss for the US weapon industry and you know it will never happen.

salaam.
 
Fruit growers disappointed by canceled orders from abroad, leaving produce to rot in warehouses

16.01.09
Fruit growers in Israel have reported delays and reductions in orders from abroad since the military operation in Gaza was launched, due to various boycotts against Israeli produce.

Farmers say much of their produce is being held in warehouses due to canceled orders, and fear a sharp decrease in fruit exports to countries such as Jordan, Britain, and the Scandinavian countries.

"We export persimmons, and because of the fighting a number of countries and distributors are canceling orders," Giora Almagor, of the southern town of Bitzaron, told Ynet. He said some of the produce had already been shipped while some was awaiting shipment in warehouses.

Almagor said a large number of cancellations came from Jordan. "The produce stays packed in warehouses, and this is causing us massive losses," he said.

"The longer the fruit waits in storage after sorting, the more its quality decreases. We also have to pay for cooling the merchandise that should have already left, and the cost in considerable," he added.

Ilan Eshel, director of the Organization of Fruit Growers in Israel, said Scandinavian countries have also been canceling orders. "It's mostly Sweden, Norway, and Denmark," he said. "In Scandinavia the tendency is general, and it may come to include all of the chains."

Eshel says the boycott did not exist before the Gaza offensive was launched. "It's getting worse, and more voices can be heard calling to boycott Israeli merchandise," he said. "Until the operation began we had excellent business, though the economic recession in Europe was causing a slight fall in the market."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3656454,00.html
 
How do you spell Schadenfraude again?

Considering how they have held Palestinian produce shipments from leaving Gaza until the produce has rotted i can't feel much sympathy.

The EU Israel Association Agreement, which includes preferential trading terms, shoud be suspended (rather than extended as planned). It is meant to be dependent on Israel behaving itself anyway.

Write to your MEPs!
 
How do you spell Schadenfraude again?

Considering how they have held Palestinian produce shipments from leaving Gaza until the produce has rotted i can't feel much sympathy.

The EU Israel Association Agreement, which includes preferential trading terms, shoud be suspended (rather than extended as planned). It is meant to be dependent on Israel behaving itself anyway.

Write to your MEPs!

same here i'm afraid

it's an awful thing to say and i feel terrible about it but i can't really bring myself to care very much

sorry
 
I find the lists of Israeli produce put out by the frothing antizionists extremely useful in knowing what I SHOULD buy rather than what I shouldn't. :D
 
Nah, you're just a low down, scab; no honour or decency...you'd stab a mate in the back if it meant getting ahead.

So blockading Israeli ships is "unjust" but the Israeli blockade of Gaza isn't? Try harder.

Oh and I see you couldn't resist the opportunity of resorting to one of your classic smears. You're scum.

I should have said "ships bound for Israel" not "Israeli ships"...ooops. :o
 
I don't think there is enough support/education/will amongst the general public for a consumer boycott to have any effect.

America certainly won't impose sanctions or end their aid to Israel (and this is even more certain now the Democrats are in power than when the Republicans were, despite what people think of the new God that just got the keys to the White House!)

Any effective sanctions will, imo, have to come from the EU. I can't imagine Israel is immune from the global economic crisis, so even just the threat of sanctions might prove hugely effective. I also can't really think of any EU government where a move like this would not be politically rewarding, especially with large Muslim communities across Western Europe. Unfortunately it won't be easy as Israel is supposed to be a "friend", but the latest carnage has caused a major swell in support for sanctions so who knows?
 
Cyber, how do you think the USA would react to the EU imposing (hypothetical) sanctions on Israel, if the situation ever got to that point? I agree with most of your post, but do you not think that America would try to stop them?
 
Cyber, how do you think the USA would react to the EU imposing (hypothetical) sanctions on Israel, if the situation ever got to that point? I agree with most of your post, but do you not think that America would try to stop them?
Yes, they would try and stop them :)

However, the EU and US don't always see eye to eye. If you look at trade disputes and environmental laws, the EU is often opposed to US policy, often aggressively.

The major problem as far as the EU goes is that any joint foreign policy must be agreed unanimously. So the UK, for example, can pull the plug on the whole shebang. Or America might offer some incentives to the East Europeans and they could veto it all. I don't know for sure under which policy area sanctions would come under (suppose it depends what kind of sanctions) but if it comes under and area where they need unanimity then admittedly there's no chance. If it comes under an area with majority voting, then it gets interesting (and of course in that case the Parliament would also have to agree, but that's the very easy part!)
 
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