'Safe Standing' campaign update- It's about time!

Discussion in 'football' started by Onket, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

  2. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    I was just about to post that! (You must be on the FSF mailing list too.) I hope it gets somewhere this time....but I'm not particularly hopeful.

    There's a link to the MPs speech here

    One of the few advantages of us being in the fcuking Conference/Blue Square Premier (apart from being able to get in to all the home pubs, and being able to smuggle miniatures into the games) is actually being able to stand up to watch football. It's so much better. I can't remember the last time i actually had to sit down.
     
  3. London_Calling

    London_Calling Pleasant and unpatronising

    I've never understood why there can't be standing areas of season ticket holders. Numbers automatically controlled, much greater variety of pricing. It's not the full answer but it gets you part way there.
     
  4. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    Yep. Wholeheartedly recommend that people sign up to this. I'm thinking of actually subscribing to the magazine too, cos I'd like to give them some money, they seem to do some great work.
     
  5. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    Is this a Private Members' Bill? If so, what are the rules around it being adopted? IIRC it needs a certain number of MPs to support it so it can go before a full session of the House and have a chance of becoming law....so this might actually be an occasion where writing to your MP could actually help.

    As for FSF, yes a great organisation. Proper grass roots and they've supported fans all over the country in sorting out stupid issues around tickets, ejections, police fuckwittery etc.
     
  6. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    I have done. :)
     
  7. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    excellent - me too.

    And I expect all other proper football fans on here will do the same.
     
  8. editor

    editor hiraethified

    That's good to hear because they used to be utterly shit. http://www.urban75.org/comics/officials.html
     
  9. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    8 years is a short time.

    Have a look at the link, ed.
     
  10. free spirit

    free spirit more tea vicar?

    I'll be so happy if this succeeds. Hopefully the FSF can get supporters flooding letters in to their MP's about this.
     
  11. embree

    embree Active Member

    That's the NFFSC you're on about though. They merged with the FSA years ago and are miles better - the campaigning nous of the FSA combined with the mainstream reach of the Nat Fed.
     
  12. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    What are the arguments against safe standing? I really can't think of any. Apart from there might be 'more important' things to spend parliamentary time on...
     
  13. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Part of it is that they can easily link names to seat numbers in case anyone does anything outrageous like stand up and start shouting.
     
  14. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    I honestly don't know. 'Control' of supporters, maybe?
     
  15. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

  16. Deareg

    Deareg Well-Known Member

    More likely the usual knee jerk and must be seen to be doing something reaction of politicians.
     
  17. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

    A Celtic fan who had a banner calling for the retunr of safe standing areas was told it was unacceptable and he wasn't allowed to unfurl it at a game at Celtic Park recently.
     
  18. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Watching football's become a lot less fun for me now that I have to sit down. Luckily, most Cardiff fans choose not to stay sat down like placid sheep, although I have sometimes found myself amongst a bunch of the sit down sort and had stewards on my back and it's really a rather rubbish way top watch the game.
     
  19. Onket

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  20. chieftain

    chieftain Mega Gammon

    I like standing at games, aside from the fact that it always seems to encourage a bit more involvement with communal singing, jumping around, piss taking, atmosphere, vibe etc it also seems to make me want to pee less often than when I sit down after the customary pre match pints...

    Bring it back now. Please.
     
  21. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    Absolutely agree. I think it's good that many away fans at virtually every ground still stand up...and there's not a lot the stewards/police can do about it. Hence they normally leave it alone - other than sometimes telling you not to stand in the gangway. At home games our season tickets are in the back row, which allows us to stand up all game!


    Yes - and I think this is one of the reasons the authorities want to keep all seating. Standing up is much more conducive to banter / liveliness / aggro and, given the police are generally massively outnumbered by fans, they'd rather we were sat down placidly in seats than jumping up and down on an open terrace.
     
  22. OneStrike

    OneStrike Well-Known Member

    I would be massively in favour of any return to standing areas, the experience is so much more enjoyable when you can at least watch the game with your friends, before you even consider all of the other benefits. As i private members bill i doubt that enough mp's will think it worthy of their time to pass unfortunately, but i live in hope.
     
  23. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    There was talk a few seasons back of clubs being fined for persistant standers. Dunno if it actually happened. But the threat of that certainly can turn supporter against supporter. Specific areas for standing would solve that.
     
  24. OneStrike

    OneStrike Well-Known Member

    This happened at Cov, we were constantly threatened with fines e.t.c. and it did create a divide amongst the home fans (away we always stand regardless) When we moved to the new 'arena' areas would get closed due to persistant standing, in the last year or so the council, police and private security seem to have given up the fight and we have unnoficial standing areas again. It's not the same as a proper area though.
     
  25. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    I wonder if these fines actually ever existed.
     
  26. strung out

    strung out (",)

  27. Rollem

    Rollem two kinds of wonderful

    i can't see it happenign any time soon
     
  28. strung out

    strung out (",)

  29. Rollem

    Rollem two kinds of wonderful

    yeah, maybe, which is better than a no
     
  30. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I always stand at all the CCFC away games, and would suggest that the redundant seats provide more of an 'elf'n'safety hazard than anything else.
     

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