Safe spaces in clubs

[Cloo]

Funnily enough, in my experience, fetish clubs are a place where this has effectively been in practice for a while. The common imagination seems to be that the moment you walk into one you'll get tied up and whipped, or that you'll be able to whatever you like with whoever you like without much preamble, but consent is everything and people are not shy of asking the management to remove people whose behaviour doesn't respect other people.

This seems to work well, as there always feels to be a safe and positive atmosphere, but that said, I am white, straight and cis and maybe other groups of people haven't found it as safe.

 

[keybored]

one popular night we all used to go to changed venues from The Depot in Bristol to Lakota, also in Bristol

Which night was this?

 

[High Voltage]

Which night was this?

I'm going to get slated for this, but Tribe of Frog

 

[keybored]

I'm going to get slated for this, but Tribe of Frog

I was half expecting you to say Shimmy or Homegrown. And no slating from me but not really my cup of tea either. I went to one at The Black Swan, nice enough crowd.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

For me the GTZ approach seems bang on. It's just saying 'we'll take you seriously' really and I don't see any problems with that at all. Having been there it's got a really good vibe and the safe space thing isn't something you're really aware of but it's worth stating IMO.

And a load of blokes going 'well I don't see a need for it' is a piss poor argument against it tbh. It's easy to miss stuff happening if it's not happening to you. I know I've been on nights out where I've not seen any problems and have heard about them from friends later.

 

[killer b]

it's worth stating IMO.

it's necessary rather than worth stating. it isn't necessary to call it a safe space policy though - in fact, probably best avoided doing that.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

it's necessary rather than worth stating. it isn't necessary to call it a safe space policy though - in fact, probably best avoided doing that.

Yeah fair point, although I'm not sure how many people more widely know or care about the other implications of the phrase. On here this thread is probably already doomed to a gromitty death by idiocy though.

 

[killer b]

the small number of people who do know and care can be really irritating and loud. best avoid stirring them up at all.

 

[twentythreedom]

I was half expecting you to say Shimmy or Homegrown. And no slating from me but not really my cup of tea either. I went to one at The Black Swan, nice enough crowd.

Homegrown was great

 

[keybored]

Homegrown was great

Yep. Nice bunch who put it on, too.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Yeah fair point, although I'm not sure how many people more widely know or care about the other implications of the phrase. On here this thread is probably already doomed to a gromitty death by idiocy though.

Fuck them tbh. If I could identify clubs where people who make sneery jokes about "safe spaces" wouldn't go, I might go clubbing more.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

Blimey, that's proper depressing. Also realise how out of touch with some scenes and clubbing I am. I always remember years ago if harassment and stuff did happen, it did get challenged either by other ravers first and then security would also act if prompted - even raving in the 90s when in some ways race/gender/sexuality diversity was less acknowledged and respected in society generally.

High street clubbing has always been a pretty shit affair though in my experience - fuelled by Fri/Sat night drinking and lad culture.

Yeah true but not sure if E culture isn't complicit in this as well, it makes you psychically malleable and complacent - it's at least partly responsible for the self-congratulatory loop of good times that the club scene is afflicted by. It's hard to be critical in the underground scene without incurring the wrath of people.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

WEEKLY WANKER #067: SUB CLUB

Sub Club cause a mild internet kerfuffle by claiming to have always been a 'safe space.'

Sounds like their assumptions are similar to some on this thread.