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Saddam sentenced to death by hanging

This was always a foregone conclusion once he'd been captured and he deserves a lifetime of prison. Never agree with the Death Penalty though and the way the whole thing has been done (especially the rather convenient timing) really annoys.

I hope the violence in Iraq subsides for the sake of the people there, but I fear it won't. :(
 
What exactly did they find him guilty of? Last thing I heard, the trial wasn't progressing anywhere and wasn't finding anything definitive at all.
 
Nemo said:
Nice to see our government speaking out against the death penalty. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad: :mad:
But Nemo, as Margaret Beckett pointed out this morning in response to the news, it's not for the UK government to meddle with the internal affairs of another country. Oh no.
 
and there's Bush and Blair having a nice Sunday lunch, and just killing a little time before moving onto their respective lecture circuits.

What is the civilian death toll in Iraq running at now, a 9/11 every four weeks, I believe ?

And to think; we didn't even get to hold onto the oil for very long . . .
 
loki;
But Nemo, as Margaret Beckett pointed out this morning in response to the news, it's not for the UK government to meddle with the internal affairs of another country. Oh no.

:D
 
mauvais said:
What exactly did they find him guilty of? Last thing I heard, the trial wasn't progressing anywhere and wasn't finding anything definitive at all.

The murder of villagers after an attempted assinatin attempt.... He ordered nearly a whole village masacred as retaliation. There's also the gassing of the Kurds to think about, starting a war with Iran (and using gas during part of it), invading Kuwait, and the systematic disappearence and torture of people he did like the look of.

The guys hardly blameless....
 
jæd said:
The murder of villagers after an attempted assinatin attempt.... He ordered nearly a whole village masacred as retaliation. There's also the gassing of the Kurds to think about, starting a war with Iran (and using gas during part of it), invading Kuwait, and the systematic disappearence and torture of people he did like the look of.

The guys hardly blameless....
I know, but at what point did they actually manage to convict him of any of this stuff? The last I heard, they were trying to produce evidence about the Kurdish massacre but not really making much headway - not because it didn't happen, but because the trial was a bit of a farce.
 
MIKHAIL MARGELOV, RUSSIAN FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN

Does this not mean that someone wants to cover up their tracks, that someone wants to eliminate the main witness of what went on in Iraq over the past decades?

It is absolutely clear that all those plans that the Americans had made before the invasion have turned out to be unrealistic and have led to this situation, where today Iraq is on the brink of territorial disintegration.

While I wouldn't want to argue against Margelov on that score, it looks like he's trying to wind the Seppoes up. Hardly diplomatic language, eh?
 
The murder of villagers after an attempted assinatin attempt.... He ordered nearly a whole village masacred as retaliation. There's also the gassing of the Kurds to think about, starting a war with Iran (and using gas during part of it),

Funny how none of the western governments raised a peep about these events until Saddam went rogue and invaded Kuwait...
 
jæd said:
The murder of villagers after an attempted assinatin attempt.... He ordered nearly a whole village masacred as retaliation.

A highly cuntish thing to do, but a very convenient thing for him to be executed for before he can be tried for politically embarrassing things like Halabja.
 
So we invaded a sovereign country, slaughtered many thousands of people, endless expense, and no end of all the suffering on the horizon, and this is the BEST thing to come out of it? Another murder :(

Saddam is charged with killing 148 people
 
Loki said:
But Nemo, as Margaret Beckett pointed out this morning in response to the news, it's not for the UK government to meddle with the internal affairs of another country. Oh no.

.. Margaret Beckett .. ironically moronic statement ..
 
jæd said:
starting a war with Iran (and using gas during part of it)

I would like to see a trial about that before he is hung as it could then come out more publically who his suporters were against Iran, namely Uncle Sam.
 
I will not shed any tears when Saddam is executed but it is interesting how the trial or trials are being managed in such a way as to avoid any embarrasing evidence coming out about the conduct of Britain or America in the years before this recent invasion and deposing of Saddam.

What it simply proves is that despite all the international law and conventions or whatever, the only law that really runs the world is the law of the biggest gun.

The winners make the rules, as they always have done.
 
nino_savatte said:
Iraq was a secular country before Saddam Hussein came to power.

Yup, they had the usual ragbag of factions (with the Muslim Brotherhood (Iraq chapter) backing the monarchy, but Britain "created" Iraq with the intention of it being a secular entity.
 
pyrovitae said:
why hanging? seems a bit archaic, doesn't it?

I'd wager that the decision is political.

Hanging is considered by some Muslims to be a shameful way of dying, so IMHO the court (possibly at the behest of the US) is sending a message. Saddam will be executed in the way a traitor would be, rather than "cleanly", by the sword or the bullet, which might be read as some form of "warrior's death".
 
ViolentPanda said:
I'd wager that the decision is political.

Hanging is considered by some Muslims to be a shameful way of dying, so IMHO the court (possibly at the behest of the US) is sending a message. Saddam will be executed in the way a traitor would be, rather than "cleanly", by the sword or the bullet, which might be read as some form of "warrior's death".

As far as I'm aware, death by firing squad is reserved for soldiers. Saddam was never a soldier.
 
ViolentPanda said:
I'd wager that the decision is political.

Hanging is considered by some Muslims to be a shameful way of dying, so IMHO the court (possibly at the behest of the US) is sending a message. Saddam will be executed in the way a traitor would be, rather than "cleanly", by the sword or the bullet, which might be read as some form of "warrior's death".

The usual method of execution...well, is there one in Iraq? The Royal Family and Nuri es Said weren't killed by so-called traditional methods iirc. Nuri was dragged around the streets of Baghdad and his body was abused by all and sundry. Qassim was beheaded (?) live on television.

But those who call for Saddam's execution for gassing the Kurds tend to overlook all the butchery that's taken place there over the last 80 odd years. I don't condone what he's done at all and you're right, the decision is political.

It's a short term high...a little like amyl nitrate; the effects will soon wear off.
 
Nemo said:
but a very convenient thing for him to be executed for before he can be tried for politically embarrassing things like Halabja.
Now you say it, it's obvious. There was some comment this morning that since he's already been sentenced to death then further trials may not need to go ahead. Can't remember who was saying that though...
 
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