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I think you English call that "Calling the kettle black" or some sort of nonsense.

I think you need to try and understand what the phrase 'The pot calling the kettle black'....unless of course you can provide me with evidence that I have:
  1. Walked away from threads when pressed for evidence that I promised on numerous occasions.
  2. Failed to post credible links.
  3. Made up ad homs to deflect from providing evidence.


Course you won't be able to that will you-so we can chalk that down yet another poorly worded post from Rach. :rolleyes:
 
Ungrateful: Back to your first point: Maybe you do not see "Asking its members to discuss "political this or that" " as invasive or incorrect in any way buit attaching prerequisites to anything of an academic nature is quite offencive to most people.
You misunderstand the verb here -- it is not an instruction to ask, it is a suggestion. And in most areas of academic research much stronger binding requests are made, such as standard ethics approval (for any research using human subjects); funding conditions are often strict and less humanely enforced on university researchers. However, more importantly, whatever the rights and wrongs of the boycott suggestion, iit does not prejudicially apply to just Jewish people, which let me remind you was a central part of your allegation.

As to your second point, I appreciate your understanding of my defiucinicies in English but never the less, I am in full understanding of the differences between first and secondary sources. Johnny Paul is a secondary, while OCU is a first, and since Johnny provided the first verbatim in his piece, what is the point you are trying to make? That the Post is... Harks back to an earlier time, say 60 years ago.
Where to start.... This is so confused, there is no point of entry. So instead I'll simply show you what's wrong with your methodology. Apparently i should be able to start threads calling you a 'racist tw@t' because a thrid party, with no reliable evidence calls you one. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/1793/help.htm 1

"Nazi allegory.": Again, PLEASE< provide a single example. Thanks in advance.
See highlight in bold in previous paragraph, for one amongst many.

Finkelstein is denied admission to Israel because he decided to hobnob with the Hezbollah Commander of Southern Lebanon and and Hezbollah, contrary to EU philospophy is a terrorist organisation and a stated enemy of Israel. He was not denied entry due to his politics per se in fact we have MKs whop make Finkelstein's views look like a joke. That is to say nothing of some of our academics.
So you do believe an academic should be banned for his views and who he meets. So if an academic meets with 'terrorists' he should be prevented from meeting colleagues (though oddly, you think if he had simply met with Nazis, Finklestein shouldn't be restricted.).

Getting back to the Nazis, denying them an art show would not have meant a damn thing as far as their program of genocide. Anyone who thinks so is very naive (put politely). You achieve certain objectives utilising certain tools, like economic boycotts for example, or material boycotts as in imported steel. Deprioving the Nazis of a Hooper or Whistler would not have meant a damn thing to anyone.
As mentioned before art and academe are part of the economy, not separate from it. So supporting an economic boycott would necessarily mean supporting a boycott of university research and much cultural production.

"Haven't read too much of Rachamim's past posting but has the feeling he has not missed much.": And yet here you are wasting all your precious time with this issue. Kind of sad then. Never the less, the world will turn.
If I had read some of your posts earlier, I would have realised that you were not just a wee bit confused, but a little bit nasty (assuming the quotations from Rachamim are from you Rachamim18). Your comments on another thread, in support of Kach and Meir Kahane suggest you are monomaniacal extremist. I remember coming across Kachniks in Israel in the '80s chanting not only anti-Arab slogans, but 'death to leftists'. Is this your ideal of debate?

1. My thanks to C. for putting up the page, I'll ask hime to remove it once the point has been made.
 
Laptop: Of the things you mentioned, Israel is presently in negotiations with the PA for the Kadima Platform, which of course as I have always said included ceding all of Gaza (already done almost 3 years ago) and 94 to 96% of the "WB," with that deficit exchanged for land within the Greenline. Just 3 days ago the PA refused the offer of Israeli land near Gaza in exchange for the deficit in "WB" land which will include some of the most heavily populated (in terms of Israeli citizens) land in the "WB." So, a "Withdrawal" in those terms is still in the works and in fact would have been completed a year and a half ago (according to the Kadimas Platform) had HAMAS not staged its Gazan coup.

As for a "Palestinian Right of Return," if they want to return to the soon to be independant nation of "Palestine," by all means let them go to Ramallah. If instead you mean let those who want just come to Israel Proper, you know that will never happen. That, in a nutshell, is what the Kadima Platform is all about.

In fact, they will have been given 2 nations of their own (including the British monstrosity of Jordan) carved from histroically Jewish land. To suggest that they also be allowed to flood Israel Proper with their descendants and thus negate the United Nations Mandate of a Jewish Homeland by sheer demographics is an asinine idea. 3 nations? Out of land that was never theirs?


In fact, in the 1949 UN Mediated Armistice Israel allowed 100,000 of them to return immediately in what was to be the first incremental return of those same "Refugees." Problem however is that the Arab negotiating team said no. Their reasoning was that if they allowed for it, that it would then confirm recognition to what they deemed the Zionist Entity. They did however, not suprisingly, accept the 10 million US dollar payout (in 1949 dollars) and received that payout in 1953.

As for "dismantling the Wall," as I have said many times only a very small portion of the "Barrier" is a wall in any way, shape, or form. Most of it is regular chainlink fence. Since its erection it has led to a drop of more than 94% in fatal attacks emanating from land bordered by this "Barrier" and an over all drop in ALL attacks in the high 70th percentile.

That it hinders the lives of a minority of the "WB" residents (Jewish Israelis living in parts of the "WB" are also inconvienced) is just too bad. I would rather have someone whining about a 45 minute wait to get to their olive trees than some inoccent person blown to bits by a Paradise bound meglomaniac spoonfed by HAMAS.

As for the base you mention, why Laptop, you must know that that was my last deployment and I am forbidden by law to discuss it. I can say this, conspiracy theories aside, somethings merely have tactical value and once a Final Accord is within reach you and others will find yourself amazed that not much was "non-negotiable."

The idea now, although it was never thought so by the British, the League of Nations, OR the UN, is to help create a new Arab Nation with contigious borders. To that end, there will not be a bunch of internal area still held onto by Israel with an ensconced presence as one saw in Lebanon until 2000.

IF you look at a map, you will notice the location of Shechem, or Nablus as you choose to call it, and see that it would be an internal area and the chances of that happening are slim to none when the Final Accord is reached.

As per the status of Jerusalem, that too will not happen. It was intended to be an International City under the auspices of the UN and Israel agreed to this. Then the Arabs invaded when Israel became independant and Jordan snatched the Eastern Sector, the Sector with the Holiest Shrine of the Jews. All Jews were barred for the duration of Jordanian control and the Jordanians, just for kicks, erected public lavaratories that utilised HaKotel,the "Wailing/Western Wall" as the 4th side of these bathrooms. They literally urinated on our holiest shrine .

The wall though is actually far longer than tourists are led to believe and extends quite a bit into residential areas and in some of those areas the Jordanians allowed Christains, Arab and otherwise, to use some of those portions of the Wall as a 4th side to literal pig stys. So one one hand they urinated and shat on our holiest site, and on the other they allowed pigs to brush up against it and do the same.

This is an addition to not allowing a single Jew to enter that half of the city. Then of course in the 67 War we defeated the Jordanians again and took control of that half of the city reuniting the city of Jerusalem once more. Now ALL religions are offered freedom to worship and are not subjected to degradation or insult. In fact, Muslims are given way too much control in the municipal waqf to the point where they dictate what can and cannot be done with HaKotel. To even do routine maintenance requires permission of the waqf. Ergo, the best thing in terms of religious significance is to allow Israel to retain ultimate control of the united city.

In terms of politics, it is our traditional capital and to divide the city because of foreign (and foreign is also an adjective used to secribe those Arabs now calling themselves "Palestinian") sensibilities is obscene.

Furthermore, the Jerusalem Envelope, or as it is also known in English, the Metropolitan Consolidation includes some of the afore mentioned areas of the "WB" that are currently being discussed in negotiations. So this issue too will come to a conclusion one way or another.


In terms of the nuclear question, that too is something I could be arrested for discussing but I can say that IF Israel EVER had them they would never deploy them in the "WB." The chance that an Israeli position could be overrun just be sheer numbers makes such deployment way too vulnerable.
 
Ungrateful:"Misunderstanding the verb 'ask'.": No, that would be personal interpretation. Given the union's now 4 year long struggle to pass much harsher measures I believe that the intent is very clear.

"Rachamim's allegation.": AGAIN, the allegation was made by the reporter. In fact, that was what was originally in the motion if the reporter's assertation that legal advice on rewording the motion is correct (it is the case for the past 3 years so one is led to believe in the veracity of the report. I should also add that I am currently in the US and it has been reported in at least one American periodical in the same fashion. This in of itself is not indicative of anything given mistakes that have circulated widely in the press on other issues but dfoes lend itself to circumstacially supporting the reporter from the Jerusalem Post).

"Racist tw$%.": Have to laugh there because that has happened on this site more than one could ever imagine. However, given concurrent reportage as mentioned, as well as past actions by the OCU and I have to say that your point is moot. IF Mr. Paul was the only voice, and this was but the first time, of course it would reckless of me to insist on my view,etc but since that is far from the case...

"Nazi Allegory.": Bravo. Gave me a good laugh, and is actually tame by U75 standards anyway but how does it prove your point? Oh, I should mention that I am full on with maps so scratch that one (but points for the laugh).

"Rachamim's views on Norman Finkelstein and his having been denied entry to Israel on Security Grounds.": When a person of a supposed social standing associates with terrorists they are in effect, if not doing the opposite, condoning the actions of said terrorist. In fact, Finkelstein did more than just meet the Hezbollah Regional Commander, he publicly supported the man's cause (destruction of Israel and the annihilation of its people). Why then should Israel EVER allow the man to enter? If he publicly applauds the attempted subversion of the nation, why would the nation allow him in? It is non-sensical.

"But Rachamim would not feel that way if Finkelstein hobknobbed with Nazis.": Ideology is not the problem here, calculated use of random acts of violence is and Finkelstein supports this. Meeting with Nazis, that is to say personages of the Third Recih, would be an entirely different situation.

It seems that you imagine my problem is with Finkelstein hating Israel and it certainly is not. Israel is a Liberal Democracy and we have legislators who make Finkelstein look like Harvey Milquetoast. The problem is aiding and abetting terrorism. The Nazis, as deplorable as they were, were a sovereign govt. who did not engage in terrorism. Hezbollahh on the other hand is a non-sovereign entity that not only commits terrorism against Israel but subverts the ideals of its own nation, Lebanon and is illegal by both International AND Lebanese Law. He can meet any colleagues who are willing to meet him but not in the nation he is helping to destroy.

"Art and Academia are part of the economy so supporting an Economic Boycott would include a boycott of those 2 given areas.": Economic only in the weakest sense of the word and no Economic Boycott to my knowledge has ever included the 2 naturally. See, the idea of a boycott is to effect change. Art and Academia are the 2 swiftest means with which to effect change so why would one then boycott those two valuable tools? Again, it is non-sensical. The idea is not to punish a nation, or is that what the OCU is about?

"Rachamim and Rachamim18." My name is Rachamim Ra'anan Ben Ami and I post under my first name, in just about everyplace save Urban. I post under Rachamim18 here because when I first registered on this site that was my Yahoo sign in name due to the pre-existence of other users with the same name (Rachamim). I am Jewish (as you know evidently) and many of us have a very deep belief in Gematria. 18 equals "Life" and as such is considered a very, very fortuitous number. Ergo, if there is a post with just the name Rachamim on Urban it is one and the same due to an apparent glitch on U75 that allows one to sign on with partially completed names (I was not even aware that some of my posts on this site were in the name Rachamim sans the 18 until it was brought to my attention by Spion.

As for expressing admiration for Rav Meir Kahane and KACH...I make no secret that when I was younger I attended a Kook yeshiva just as Kahanism was coming to prominence. I was introduced into the movement through their paramilitary and until the Party's banning was quite active in it. I no long subscribe to their ideas and am a member of the ruling party, Kadima, so one could best describe me now as a right of center person given Kadima's Centrism.

"Kahanists chanting death to Arabs, death to leftists.": Like any other entity there are unbalanced people on the fringes. Rav Kahane never called for the death of members of either group. He did call for an "Eye for an Eye" (which is just basic Jewish theology), and did despise leftists but this was an era when Israel was just then emerging from deep Socialism and we suffered from triple digit inflation.I do not like political labels to be honest but for the sake of discourse it helps to use them , for brevity's sake at least. I would rather describe myself ideal by ideal rather than as "righ of center" but that would take forever (half as long as this post).

Oh, as far as removing the page, you can do as you like. Far be it from me to dicate anyone's opinion. You find me to be an extremist, that is your perogative. However, if I was an extremist, would I even be talking to you let alone debating ideas on this board?
 
I'm in UCU and its been the main item on the UCU activists group.

Yes there are sections of UCU who want a boycott of Israeli academic institutions, at the request of Palestinian trade unionists, because of Israeli academic institution's role in the separation, military occupation and humiliation of the Palestinians.

Could you give more details on the academic institutions role please?
 
Dhimmi: Thanks for asking that becuase I too would love to hear that answer, already knowing the actual truth. LEt us see what OCU says though.
 
Dhimmi: Thansk for asking cause I too am very, very interested to hear the "OCU view on this since to my knowledge the military research one imagines is confied to certain millitary ran universities that are not within the academic system as one would expect in the
West. Anyway, let us see what is said.
 
Laptop: Of the things you mentioned, Israel is presently in negotiations with the PA for the Kadima Platform, which of course as I have always said included ceding all of Gaza (already done almost 3 years ago) and 94 to 96% of the "WB," with that deficit exchanged for land within the Greenline. Just 3 days ago the PA refused the offer of Israeli land near Gaza in exchange for the deficit in "WB" land which will include some of the most heavily populated (in terms of Israeli citizens) land in the "WB." So, a "Withdrawal" in those terms is still in the works and in fact would have been completed a year and a half ago (according to the Kadimas Platform) had HAMAS not staged its Gazan coup.

As for a "Palestinian Right of Return," if they want to return to the soon to be independant nation of "Palestine," by all means let them go to Ramallah. If instead you mean let those who want just come to Israel Proper, you know that will never happen. That, in a nutshell, is what the Kadima Platform is all about.

In fact, they will have been given 2 nations of their own (including the British monstrosity of Jordan) carved from histroically Jewish land. To suggest that they also be allowed to flood Israel Proper with their descendants and thus negate the United Nations Mandate of a Jewish Homeland by sheer demographics is an asinine idea. 3 nations? Out of land that was never theirs?


In fact, in the 1949 UN Mediated Armistice Israel allowed 100,000 of them to return immediately in what was to be the first incremental return of those same "Refugees." Problem however is that the Arab negotiating team said no. Their reasoning was that if they allowed for it, that it would then confirm recognition to what they deemed the Zionist Entity. They did however, not suprisingly, accept the 10 million US dollar payout (in 1949 dollars) and received that payout in 1953.

As for "dismantling the Wall," as I have said many times only a very small portion of the "Barrier" is a wall in any way, shape, or form. Most of it is regular chainlink fence. Since its erection it has led to a drop of more than 94% in fatal attacks emanating from land bordered by this "Barrier" and an over all drop in ALL attacks in the high 70th percentile.

That it hinders the lives of a minority of the "WB" residents (Jewish Israelis living in parts of the "WB" are also inconvienced) is just too bad. I would rather have someone whining about a 45 minute wait to get to their olive trees than some inoccent person blown to bits by a Paradise bound meglomaniac spoonfed by HAMAS.

As for the base you mention, why Laptop, you must know that that was my last deployment and I am forbidden by law to discuss it. I can say this, conspiracy theories aside, somethings merely have tactical value and once a Final Accord is within reach you and others will find yourself amazed that not much was "non-negotiable."

The idea now, although it was never thought so by the British, the League of Nations, OR the UN, is to help create a new Arab Nation with contigious borders. To that end, there will not be a bunch of internal area still held onto by Israel with an ensconced presence as one saw in Lebanon until 2000.

IF you look at a map, you will notice the location of Shechem, or Nablus as you choose to call it, and see that it would be an internal area and the chances of that happening are slim to none when the Final Accord is reached.

As per the status of Jerusalem, that too will not happen. It was intended to be an International City under the auspices of the UN and Israel agreed to this. Then the Arabs invaded when Israel became independant and Jordan snatched the Eastern Sector, the Sector with the Holiest Shrine of the Jews. All Jews were barred for the duration of Jordanian control and the Jordanians, just for kicks, erected public lavaratories that utilised HaKotel,the "Wailing/Western Wall" as the 4th side of these bathrooms. They literally urinated on our holiest shrine .

The wall though is actually far longer than tourists are led to believe and extends quite a bit into residential areas and in some of those areas the Jordanians allowed Christains, Arab and otherwise, to use some of those portions of the Wall as a 4th side to literal pig stys. So one one hand they urinated and shat on our holiest site, and on the other they allowed pigs to brush up against it and do the same.

This is an addition to not allowing a single Jew to enter that half of the city. Then of course in the 67 War we defeated the Jordanians again and took control of that half of the city reuniting the city of Jerusalem once more. Now ALL religions are offered freedom to worship and are not subjected to degradation or insult. In fact, Muslims are given way too much control in the municipal waqf to the point where they dictate what can and cannot be done with HaKotel. To even do routine maintenance requires permission of the waqf. Ergo, the best thing in terms of religious significance is to allow Israel to retain ultimate control of the united city.

In terms of politics, it is our traditional capital and to divide the city because of foreign (and foreign is also an adjective used to secribe those Arabs now calling themselves "Palestinian") sensibilities is obscene.

Furthermore, the Jerusalem Envelope, or as it is also known in English, the Metropolitan Consolidation includes some of the afore mentioned areas of the "WB" that are currently being discussed in negotiations. So this issue too will come to a conclusion one way or another.


In terms of the nuclear question, that too is something I could be arrested for discussing but I can say that IF Israel EVER had them they would never deploy them in the "WB." The chance that an Israeli position could be overrun just be sheer numbers makes such deployment way too vulnerable.

I disagree
 
I disagree

:D

rach said:
In fact, they will have been given 2 nations of their own (including the British monstrosity of Jordan) carved from histroically Jewish land.

Palestinians are getting chunks of Baghdad and Buda and Pest and Riga? :eek:

rach said:
In fact, they will have been given 2 nations of their own (including the British monstrosity of Jordan) carved from histroically Jewish land.

Given that your task here is to promote the state of Israel and the stated policy of the state of Israel is to obfuscate about nuclear matters, I shall take that as confirmation that something very, very dodgy is going on in the hills above Nablus.
 
LAptop: I do not have a job related to ISrael, I am no longer in the military even oin Reserve Status so no, you are wrong. I was however last deployed at the base you m,ention and I can tell you nothing of the stuff you imagine happens anywhere near there.

IF Israel had a program, why would you ever imagine that they woukd ensconce parts of it in the "WB." I do not think you have ever been to the country ortr as you would understand perfectly why this could never happen.

First, the whole reason why we held ont it in 67 was because of the minute distance between our enemies' borders and our the center of our nation, these so called "Territories" making up for it to the point of offering us an extas 10 minutes if we were invaded at the particularly vulnerably points. So, if we have nukes at all, and if we had a choice to deploy them, why would we deploy them in the most vulnerable of places both physically speaking and demographically speaking as well. The population surrounding Shechem could simply overrun any installation they chose with human wave after wave and a nucelar device would be reason enough to inspirer them.

You are a foreigner and do not expect you to understand but just about a month ago on Jordanian TV, a Jordanian professor (with "friends" like these do we really need enemies) offered a plan on how to infiltrate from that border and how to do so while carrying a hand held nuclear device.

WE having perhaps the best Intel and Alaysis in the world, would never make such a blunder. To allow a group like Fatah to grab hold of even a suitcase soze piece of hardwware would be a terrifying mistake.

So, what could be in that base you are so interested about? It goes without saying that of course I cannot answer that but I can tell you, are you familiar with Mt. Hermon? What happens on Mt Hermon? That is ALL I will say on the matter. My position in any even was running a shit at a Checkpoint down on the intersection. The base was not mt job, merely my sleeping quarters most of my time (when not on Counter Ops).

As for your jhoke about Riga, etc. I do not understand it at all. "Palestinians" already have Jordan which except for its foreign maonarchy IS "Palestine," Now Israel is agreeing and trying to once again help even more "Palestinians" found a second homeland out of Jewish Land....In my mind, anyone against Israel is deluded. No nation on earth would go as far as we do in trying to have a peaceful coexistence.
 
LAptop: I do not have a job related to ISrael, I am no longer in the military even oin Reserve Status so no, you are wrong. I was however last deployed at the base you m,ention and I can tell you nothing of the stuff you imagine hap

Wrong, you do the job of the Israeli state by posting reams of propaganda on this forum. There is little that you post that wouldn't be out of place in a Foreign Ministry press release.
 
Nino: No, what I do is simply perform a civic duty. IF I see mistruths, lies, being spread about my nation, my civic duty as an Israeli compels me to try and right that error. Hasbara (Truth Telling, literally, but idiomatically it is a policy of the govt. to encourage common citizens to try and correct misconcetions) is a national obsession. I find it is better say, than some peopl's obsession...Internet Poker or Internet Porno for example.

At least the time I spend is fufilling a civic and a religious obligation (The Talmud says that to save one person is to save the world. When people are living their lives a certain way due to misconceptions I am helping them when I tell them the truth).
 
Oh and tangent is shit-stirring. For some unknown reason, tangent seems to think that you're honest and worth debating.

This is misrepresenting my position. Search on my name over last 3 years for my posts (e.g. search for 'dunums' and username 'tangentlama' or 'palestinian textbooks' and username 'tangentlama'). You can see that I argued with Rachamim more than any of you, but generally refrain from indulging or ruining threads with base insults. Much of what is being discussed today is already refuted by me. I don't have time to waste my time going over and over stale, rehearsed rhetoric when the issues on the ground are constantly changing. It's a debate-trap and not worthy to indulge in. My objections are to the debasement of the debate. Stick to the issues and don't get sidetracked. Ignore the inconsequential anecdotes as attempt to justify position - stick to issues and real facts with links to reputable sources and don't get sidetracked.
 
This is misrepresenting my position. Search on my name over last 3 years for my posts (e.g. search for 'dunums' and username 'tangentlama' or 'palestinian textbooks' and username 'tangentlama'). You can see that I argued with Rachamim more than any of you, but generally refrain from indulging or ruining threads with base insults. Much of what is being discussed today is already refuted by me. I don't have time to waste my time going over and over stale, rehearsed rhetoric when the issues on the ground are constantly changing. It's a debate-trap and not worthy to indulge in. My objections are to the debasement of the debate. Stick to the issues and don't get sidetracked. Ignore the inconsequential anecdotes as attempt to justify position - stick to issues and real facts with links to reputable sources and don't get sidetracked.

Ah, but it isn't easy to simply "stick to the issues", especially if the person you are dealing with is more concerned with obfuscation or presenting hearsay, opinion and gossip as hard evidence.
 
Nino: How can you even post that? Fact is, one should be able to state their opinions without fear of being tarred and feathered. You talk of "sidetracking" but what is name calling? Tangent does not favour me, etc. Tangent simply and correctly wishes to concentrate on real issues as opposed to personality nonsense. If everyone took that to heart this forum would be fantastic.
 
Easy, you aren't interested in discussion: you obfuscate. That is not "namecalling" that is the truth and you have no interest in the truth.
 
Nino, you cannot read my mind, hence you have no idea what I feel about "truth." I do offer my "opinions" here, as well as "facts," i.e. "truth." If you feel I do not, why not prove it by providing other "facts" instead of mere criticism of me as a person?
 
I wouldn't want to read your mind if your posts are anything to go by. I'd rather drink a pint of raw sewage than read your mind....not that there's much difference between the sewage and your mind, that is. :D

You're a bit touchy for someone who is fond of dishing out insults.
 
Nino: " Nino would rather drink raw sewage than read Rachamim's mind.": Ahhh, here we go again...

Nino, I know daycare can be rough on a kid. I know you get lonely, it hurts not be given enough nappies to make it through another grueling day of picture books and other laddies hogging all the good toys... You just have to buckle up. There you go mate, it is not THAT difficult, right?

If you want, and I mean this, I will personally make sure they give you an extra half a biscuit but you MUST promise to try your hardest to hold it in...that might be part of the problem. Still, should I also make sure they keep emergency nappies for widdle weeno?

When I was a young strapping lad of 3, I too was terrified of school. Like you I was forced to go most days and came out the better for it. now I know there is a distinct difference between you and I. I for example went to Yiddish language cheder and actually learned to read at age 4, you get to play with litle cars all day. Still, there are things in common.

For example, I know it hurts not to be allowed to nurse when you want but I am sure you will progress enough so that by age 8 you do not even want to drink milk anymore. I know it sounds impossible at this point but in the end you will feel like quite the young man when you are finally able to hold it in for more than an hour.

At that point, and I have faith it will ahppen, you and I will be able to communicate like actual, real life adults. We will actually discuss politics and Middle Eastern issues rather than which way a GI Joe leg can stretch. Weening is difficult, remember I have 7 (6 alive) babies and am trying for alot more. Ergo, I understand you and will continue to offer you the best support system one could ever hope for.

P.S.: Please tell me how many letters I used. Thank you in advance. Mwaaaah!

P.P.S.: I hear some other buzzing in the background, something monotonous and droning but as of yet it just sounds like White Noise. Maybe it is one of those Supernatural Communications...
 
Oh, I thought it had quietened down in here. Apparently not. Fine - restarting the whole thing - any posts I see from now on which look like they are personal attacks or even just not on-topic will result in an immediate ban. On any thread. Also any continuation of anything in other forums or _anything at all_.

NB pretty much every post on this page of this thread comes under the above.
 
Nino: " Nino would rather drink raw sewage than read Rachamim's mind.": Ahhh, here we go again...

Nino, I know daycare can be rough on a kid. I know you get lonely, it hurts not be given enough nappies to make it through another grueling day of picture books and other laddies hogging all the good toys... You just have to buckle up. There you go mate, it is not THAT difficult, right?

If you want, and I mean this, I will personally make sure they give you an extra half a biscuit but you MUST promise to try your hardest to hold it in...that might be part of the problem. Still, should I also make sure they keep emergency nappies for widdle weeno?

When I was a young strapping lad of 3, I too was terrified of school. Like you I was forced to go most days and came out the better for it. now I know there is a distinct difference between you and I. I for example went to Yiddish language cheder and actually learned to read at age 4, you get to play with litle cars all day. Still, there are things in common.

For example, I know it hurts not to be allowed to nurse when you want but I am sure you will progress enough so that by age 8 you do not even want to drink milk anymore. I know it sounds impossible at this point but in the end you will feel like quite the young man when you are finally able to hold it in for more than an hour.

At that point, and I have faith it will ahppen, you and I will be able to communicate like actual, real life adults. We will actually discuss politics and Middle Eastern issues rather than which way a GI Joe leg can stretch. Weening is difficult, remember I have 7 (6 alive) babies and am trying for alot more. Ergo, I understand you and will continue to offer you the best support system one could ever hope for.

P.S.: Please tell me how many letters I used. Thank you in advance. Mwaaaah!

P.P.S.: I hear some other buzzing in the background, something monotonous and droning but as of yet it just sounds like White Noise. Maybe it is one of those Supernatural Communications...

How about telling the truth for a change instead of posting up screeds?
 
Tangent: "Debate trap.": Noooo. Hardly. See, all the time new people peruse these forums, even if they would never dream of wading in the muck. I get PMs alot from people saying thanks for this or that and it shows me that truth , or the belief in the truth is VERY important.

IF you believe what you say, you should say it whenever it is refuted so that others do not fall vicitim to ignorance.

The Talmud says "To save one man is to save the world."

Also, say a person is newly entering the forum and see someone staing soemthing you know to be false. Failing to refute that some observers will say that you cannot refute it so it must be true. If enough people start investing in that ignorance things will change for the worse.

It is VERY aggravating to have to repost things you have stated many times but if it is right it is neccessary. My view anyway.
 
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