Is the Stop The War Coalition going to apologise for trying to take political advantage of the situation? If not, will you distance yourself from those responsible?rebel warrior said:Apologising for trying to shove heaps of steaming shitty Right wing pro police propaganda down our throats would be a start...
why should they apologise? Why shouldn't they draw the links? It's all quite clearly connected isn't it??winjer said:Is the Stop The War Coalition going to apologise for trying to take political advantage of the situation? If not, will you distance yourself from those responsible?
I'm not referring to the accusations levelled at the J4J campaign in the press, but the execrable troops-out-nonvigil on the 25th July, the offensive 'Bliars' placards, and the entirely false claim on the current 'March for Peace & Liberty' flyers which under the heading 'Defend Civil Liberties' says 'One innocent man has already paid with his life for "increased police powers". If these new measures go through, more injustice will be visited on us all."

Like I said - would you care to point out the *specific* posts I should be apologising for? I can't recall saying anything about the police on this thread - but feel to point out to everyone which posts you are referring to. Likewise, maybe you could explain which posts have been "right wing" and why you are describing them as such - unless you are claiming that anyone who doesn't support the SWP/RUC or their front groups is automatically 'counter-revolutionary' and therefore automaticially "right wing".rebel warrior said:Apologising for trying to shove heaps of steaming shitty Right wing pro police propaganda down our throats would be a start...
Yes, you have said plenty. All relentlessly negative and smeary except for the above u-turn. A u-turn not followed by an apology, but by an argument that says that you were right to be wrong.TeeJay said:I have said plenty about it. What exactly do you want me to add? Or is this just you trying to pick a pointless fight with me for purely personal reasons? I've already told you butchers, I am not interested.
No it isn't, except in the sense that the state is responsible for all those deaths, but the STWC was supposed to be a broad-based anti-war campaign, not a political alternative to the Labour Party.X-77 said:Why shouldn't they draw the links? It's all quite clearly connected isn't it??![]()
That Jean Charles de Menezes was executed because of anti-terror legislation, the implication being that the shoot-to-kill policy has some basis in law.What's the 'entirely false claim' btw?
So you are completely unable to set out which posts I should apologise for and what exactly I 'got wrong'? You can't even exaplin what my u-turn is? You are a fucking joke.butchersapron said:Yes, you have said plenty. All relentlessly negative and smeary except for the above u-turn. A u-turn not followed by an apology, but by an argument that says that you were right to be wrong.
What do i want you to add? Say sorry. Say that you were wrong and say it here.
It'd be the posts where you suggested that the Menezes family are dumb foreigners, and accused the people helping them of being two-faced liars, at a guess.TeeJay said:So you are completely unable to set out which posts I should apologise for and what exactly I 'got wrong'? You can't even exaplin what my u-turn is? You are a fucking joke.

past caring said:It's some fucking achievement, getting people like me and butchers more or less on the same side as webel - well done Teej.![]()
Provide some actual quotes or stop fucking lying.winjer said:It'd be the posts where you suggested that the Menezes family are dumb foreigners, and accused the people helping them of being two-faced liars, at a guess.

Why? You're both clueless fuckwitted cunts who have a personal problem with me. Birds of a feather.past caring said:It's some fucking achievement, getting people like me and butchers more or less on the same side as webel - well done Teej.![]()