Ryanair reduce flights from Newquay to one a day

[madzone]

not to mention the rumble of trains as they roll back and forth across the cornish countryside! oh and the national express buses ... why it must be the most incommunicado outpost in the whole british empire
((((((((((poor cornish people)))))))))))))

Yeah, lets hop on the coach that takes 12 hrs to get to London. What am I thinking of? 1 hr each way on the plane versus 12 hrs each way on the coach - what on earth am I moaning about?

 

[Spion]

It's a terrible state of affairs when a farmer from one of the furthest reaches of the British mainland can't get to go for a night out in the West End for less than 10 quid by plane. It's no wonder farming's in decline

 

[madzone]

ah ok so it's not that there's only one flight a day you're complaining about, it's that the flights aren't cheap enough for you?

The plane provided a vaible alternative to train travel at that cost.

*Checks to see if she's grown whiskers and a tail and a strange liking for cheese*

 

[madzone]

It's a terrible state of affairs when a farmer from one of the furthest reaches of the British mainland can't get to go for a night out in the West End for less than 10 quid by plane. It's no wonder farming's in decline

I'm not a farmer..

Ohhh I love it when all the urban inadequates smell blood

 

[madzone]

I've been going to Cornwall since before you were born and I've only ever been on a folding bike once. And you can shove you patronising "rose tinted specs" comments right up your landing pad.

I'm more than aware of the socio-economic problems facing Cornwall, thanks. They aren't a great deal different to the kind of problems faced in my home country.

If you really care for your area, you should be grateful that people like me aren't put off by the lack of a polluting air service and use environmentally sound means of getting there and then getting about the area.

I'll be grateful for people like you coming to cornwall when hell freezes over

I'm 40 - how old are you?

 

[Jangla]

oh do't be so overdramatic for christ's sakes, i'm not arguing for the removal of all public transport links to cornwall, i'm simply pointing out that it's a bit unrealistic for someone from rural cornwall to expect air travel to facilitate them paying a one night visit to london when they feel like it!

Why is it unrealistic? It was in place until very recently. If there was no such thing previoulsy I'd be on your side but the point is that a service that many have come to rely on has been removed without due conslutation of the very users of the service.

 

[Spion]

I'm not a farmer..

Ohhh I love it when all the urban inadequates smell blood

Blood? No, it was shit I smelt someone talking

is that urban with a big U or a little one? Cos it's semi rural and 250 miles from London here

 

[madzone]

Why is it unrealistic? It was in place until very recently. If there was no such thing previoulsy I'd be on your side but the point is that a service that many have come to rely on has been removed without due conslutation of the very users of the service.

Thank you very much

 

[madzone]

Blood? No, it was shit I smelt someone talking

is that urban with a big U or a little one? Cos it's semi rural and 250 miles from London here

So, if you had been using a service for a couple of years which was convenient and viable cost wise you wouldn't be pissed off if somoene removed it just as you had a trip planned and trebled your travellling time for more cost thus making the trip unviable?

 

[Spion]

Why is it unrealistic? It was in place until very recently. If there was no such thing previoulsy I'd be on your side but the point is that a service that many have come to rely on has been removed without due conslutation of the very users of the service.

Oh come on! Nobody here is talking about relying on anything. It's not like a life or death thing. One person is whinging cos they can't get exactly what they want - ie a dirt cheap return fare to London at the precise time of day they like for a pleasure trip in a time frame which is pretty unrealistic given the distance they have to travel.

As people have pointed out there are other airlines and other means of transport and they could try and do something about the time they have to spend away.

 

[kea]

The plane provided a vaible alternative to train travel at that cost.

yes but SHOULD IT? that, my little yokel, is what i am getting at.

 

[kea]

Why is it unrealistic? It was in place until very recently. If there was no such thing previoulsy I'd be on your side but the point is that a service that many have come to rely on has been removed without due conslutation of the very users of the service.

are low-cost short-haul flights a 'service'? i don't think so. if you think they're a community service presumably you'd approve of ryanair being given public subsidy to keep them going, in the same way that the rail network receives public subsidy because of its community benefits?

 

[madzone]

yes but SHOULD IT? that, my little yokel, is what i am getting at.

SHOULD there be any air travel at all? That's a stupid point. There was a service and now it's been stopped. You'd be pissed off if it happened to you.

 

[Spion]

So, if you had been using a service for a couple of years which was convenient and viable cost wise you wouldn't be pissed off if somoene removed it just as you had a trip planned and trebled your travellling time for more cost thus making the trip unviable?

Yeah, I would. Had you actually booked?

What's wrong with the other airline exactly?

 

[madzone]

are low-cost short-haul flights a 'service'? i don't think so. if you think they're a community service presumably you'd approve of ryanair being given public subsidy to keep them going, in the same way that the rail network receives public subsidy because of its community benefits?

Maybe there should be no internal flights at all then. Let's campaign for that.

By service I mean as in bus service, rail service. I'm not insinuating it's a right. I'm sure Jangla isn't either.

 

[madzone]

Yeah, I would. Had you actually booked?

What's wrong with the other airline exactly?

I wasn't booking till the end of this week as I'm waiting for hotel vouchers to come through.

The other service is too expensive. It'll work out at nearly 300 quid.

 

[Dubversion]

so are people telling me that if they made use of a service which was then withdrawn - even for good reasons - rather than go 'oh bugger' and moan about it, they would carefully consider the entire socio-economic question and just live with it?

bollocks, frankly

 

[Jangla]

are low-cost short-haul flights a 'service'? i don't think so. if you think they're a community service presumably you'd approve of ryanair being given public subsidy to keep them going, in the same way that the rail network receives public subsidy because of its community benefits?

If you'd spent as many hours as I have on the A-friggin-303 then , yes, it's a service And this entire thread is about a subsidy (paid by the public) to keep it going, which CC took upon themselves to decide - so yes again.

 

[madzone]

If you'd spent as many hours as I have on the A-friggin-303 then , yes, it's a service And this entire thread is about a subsidy (paid by the public) to keep it going - so yes again.

It fucking is subsidised isn't it?? I forgot about that.

 

[Spion]

so are people telling me that if they made use of a service which was then withdrawn - even for good reasons - rather than go 'oh bugger' and moan about it, they would carefully consider the entire socio-economic question and just live with it?

bollocks, frankly

hehe, here's Dubversion with the counter-counterpoint. Urban's such a giggle sometimes

 

[kea]

SHOULD there be any air travel at all? That's a stupid point.

no, that's not what i asked. what i asked was, should there be cheap short haul flights? i think no, because i think that flight prices should reflect all the costs including the environmental. short haul flights in particular involve a large amount of environmental damage proportional to their result, especially given that there are other travel options such as trains.
therefore no, i don't think it's your god-given right to have cheap short haul flights - preferably more than one a day - from cornwall to london. i think you should get the train.

 

[kea]

And this entire thread is about a subsidy (paid by the public) to keep it going, which CC took upon themselves to decide - so yes again.

you think it's the right thing to do, to spend government money paying for cheap short-haul flights? blimey.

 

[Spion]

I wasn't booking till the end of this week as I'm waiting for hotel vouchers to come through.

The other service is too expensive. It'll work out at nearly 300 quid.

Looks like the train then? Often (I did Leeds to Exeter by plane the other week) it doesn't work out that much longer on the train if you take into account check in time, baggage collection, travel to and from airport. It's just easier on the plane

 

[madzone]

no, that's not what i asked. what i asked was, should there be cheap short haul flights? i think no, because i think that flight prices should reflect all the costs including the environmental. short haul flights in particular involve a large amount of environmental damage proportional to their result, especially given that there are other travel options such as trains.
therefore no, i don't think it's your god-given right to have cheap short haul flights - preferably more than one a day - from cornwall to london. i think you should get the train.

I've never said it's my god given right?

I've said I'm pissed off that my trip has been fucked up.

And if it's not my right to have cheap, short haul flights I take it you've never flown to Europe?

 

[madzone]

Looks like the train then? Often (I did Leeds to Exeter by plane the other week) it doesn't work out that much longer on the train if you take into account check in time, baggage collection, travel to and from airport. It's just easier on the plane

It's much quicker. You're in London (liverpool St) by 11am as ooposed to 2.30pm. With all due respect if you haven't done the trip you can't know what you're talking about. AND it's explained at the beginning of the thread why the train is an unsuitable option.

 

[Dubversion]

I don't know if I'm more pissed off with Ryanair or Cornwall CC but they've had a tiff over a £5 passenger tax which the council wanted to charge Ryanair.

Why did they have to do that when I'm supposed to be going away? That's really fucked us up

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=05&month=aug&story=rte-en-310805

i thought it might be worth reposting the original thread starter. read it again. it's someone that's pissed off about an air route being reduced. that's all.

it's just human nature, surely, to be miffed about that?

if they stopped selling Red Stripe in my local offlicence i'd be pissed off. further investigation might reveal that there were sound reasons, and of course i could always drink Grolsch. but i bet i'll still moan about it.

po-faced fuckers

 

[madzone]

"Third class citizens"? WTF?

Err, many, many towns don't enjoy Newquay's connectivity:

Err, I don't live in Newquay

 

[madzone]

i thought it might be worth reposting the original thread starter. read it again. it's someone that's pissed off about an air route being reduced. that's all.

it's just human nature, surely, to be miffed about that?

if they stopped selling Red Stripe in my local offlicence i'd be pissed off. further investigation might reveal that there were sound reasons, and of course i could always drink Grolsch. but i bet i'll still moan about it.

po-faced fuckers

*passes dub a tin of red stripe*

Anyway, I reckon there's just a couple of bored people on Urban today and I've provided a short diversion for them to flex their po faces and vent some spleen.

 

[editor]

I'll be grateful for people like you coming to cornwall when hell freezes over

Fuck you then.

Seems that your "concern" is purely selfish.

 

[madzone]

Fuck you then.

Seems that your "concern" is purely selfish.

I've never hidden my hatred of tourists.

And I've NEVER said my concern was anything BUT selfish.