Ruth Bader Ginsburg dead age 87

[tim]

He'll just bullshit that he already is a judge. It's not like reality matters to him

Cruz is an experienced lawyer and a former Solicitor General for Texas, so has a background that is suitable. Anyway, if Trump loses in November, he'll probably appoint himself and try and get it pushed through before the January turnaround.

 

[nogojones]

Cruz is an experienced lawyer and a former Solicitor General for Texas, so has a background that is suitable. Anyway, if Trump loses in November, he'll probably appoint himself and try and get it pushed through before the January turnaround.

He's always really wanted to be prez though. If he sees it as a stepping stone he'll be all over it

 

[mauvais]

He's always really wanted to be prez though. If he sees it as a stepping stone he'll be all over it

It would be unusual for a SCJ to run for elected office. They'd have to step down and out of a job for life.

 

[Yossarian]

I think Trump is just dangling the SCOTUS possibility to keep Ted Cruz loyal - Cruz probably insulted Trump too many times during the 2016 primaries to ever have a chance of being considered the kind of faithful servant who gets big rewards in Trumpworld.

 

[JuanTwoThree]

More thoughts on this

4 Reasons to Doubt Mitch McConnell’s Power

For once, he may be on the wrong side of a power dynamic.

www.theatlantic.com

If true, it's not in the bag

 

[skyscraper101]

It would be unusual for a SCJ to run for elected office. They'd have to step down and out of a job for life.

Only a job for life if they want. Any SCJ can retire from the position if they want.

Cruz is a a right knobber though. I'd say it's unbelivable how he ever got elected into anything, but then Texas had Bush Jr didn't they, so they've got plenty of previous.

 

[mauvais]

Only a job for life if they want. Any SCJ can retire from the position if they want.

Yes. But there's no guarantee they're going to get whatever they run for, and to run they give it up (I think - as opposed to giving it up when successful).

 

[Dogsauce]

just confirming that a sense of looming dread is generally the correct reaction to things.
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Didn‘t seem to be a problem four years ago.

 

[petee]

It would be unusual for a SCJ to run for elected office. They'd have to step down and out of a job for life.

it went the other way once

William Howard Taft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[gosub]

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On the basis of these results the Republicans are saying they have not just an ability but a mandate, whilst Obama was a lame duck, though(I seem to remember Clinton was ahead in the polls, Though Obama was dishing Exec orders like he was in a pandemic or something. Makes you wonder just how gamed the Hill is gerrymandering.

 

[bimble]

Trump rally yesterday apparently he appears on stage whilst the crowd is chanting ‘fill that seat’. That won’t have been spontaneous will it.

 

[Streathamite]

The Supreme Court should (??) rule on whether or not the replacement Supreme Court judge should join the Supreme Court ahead of the Election.

(Or ahead of January 2021 )

Unfortunately, it can't and won't - outside its' remit. Only Trump and the Senate can make that call.
RIP RBG, you fought for the right things

 

[Dogsauce]

Not an outcome that was wanted right now, going to be a big rallying call to the right. Trump didn’t have a lot else to offer that he hadn’t already done to some extent (can’t chant ‘build that wall’ this time).

 

[Streathamite]

I think for most of obama's presidency the senate was republican and they have to vote to confirm the judges the president nominates.

That was exactly the situation

 

[Streathamite]

If the election result is contested by the loser (claiming fraudulent voting or whatever) then is it the case that the Supreme Court decides in the end whether the election result is valid or not?

Indeed it is

 

[Streathamite]

That’s very interesting JuanTwoThree . Makes sense, if he understands it he would probably do just that dangle the regressive judge as bait for the votes he needs. But in a scenario (unlikely imo) where he loses and concedes defeat but stays until February (?) he’d then focus fully on trying to install the anti abortion Belgian toddler just as a fuck you legacy.

The winner of this Presidential election will be inaugurated on january 9th, in fact

 

[Streathamite]

IIRC the court havng nine members is a matter of tradition, not law. So a president with a tame senate could theoretically add fourteen goats and the ghost of Elvis Presley if he wanted to.

In fact, Congress has the final say on determining how many justices sit on SCOTUS. So, if the dems wih the WH and both Houses (of which there is a good likelihood, and getting more liikely by the day), then...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

When I got the news that she had died, I was driving back home for the weekend. I admit that I had to pull over to the side of a road for a few minutes, but since then I've had time to think about what I'd say about her. My initial reaction was a couple paragraphs of "oh fuck." However, I want to remember her for the fundamental contributions she made to women's equality.

When I was little my mother would sometimes use a credit card to buy us school clothes and stuff. I remember looking at it as she handed it over the counter. It had my dad's name on it. One of Ruth Bader Ginsberg's early cases contested the idea that only men were credit-worthy. Women, generally, couldn't get credit cards in their own names, buy a house on their own with credit, or start a business requiring a business loan. Without basic financial rights, you have no rights that mean anything. That's all changed now thanks to her.

She has in a real way made my independent life possible. When I went to buy a house, I was able to get a loan on my own. (I did have one loan officer ask me where my husband was when I went in to apply for the loan. He then, quoted me a loan rate that was twice the going rate, but I digress). While I had some trouble, I was able to shop loan companies until I found one that would loan me money and at a decent rate. That wouldn't have been possible before 1972.

I understand that she died near sundown on Rosh Hashana. This is a very holy day in the Jewish calendar. This is what USA Today had to say about the significance of that:

"According to Jewish tradition, a person who dies on Rosh Hashanah, which began tonight, is a tzaddik, a person of great righteousness," Franklin tweeted soon after the news of Ginsburg's death broke.

NPR reporter Nina Totenberg explained the tradition on Twitter: "A Jewish teaching says those who die just before the Jewish new year are the ones God has held back until the last moment bc they were needed most & were the most righteous."

It's not the only point of significance. Because Ginsburg died Friday evening, her death occurred around the time Shabbat, the Jewish Sabbath, began.

“If one dies on any Shabbat they are considered a Tzadik … more so when it’s on the new year,” Rabbi Andrea London of Beth Emet synagogue in Evanston, Illinois told USA TODAY.

Activists, journalists and thousands of others have shared a similar sentiment since – connecting Ginsburg's legacy as the nation's preeminent litigator for women’s rights and the leader of the Supreme Court's liberal contingent with the Jewish title of Tzadik. It's a term reserved for those known for their righteous deeds.

MSN

Now, its up to us to defend her legacy. It won't be easy.

 

[bimble]

Lovely post Yuwipi Woman . Yes. It’s one of my favourite stories from Judaism, there’s this idea that at any one time the world contains 36 truly good people , these tzadiks, and they are the reason god hadn’t destroyed everything in his bitter disappointment as yet. The 36 don’t know they’re them, because anyone who thought so wouldn’t be humble so would be inevitably not be the real thing. Her death made me remember that idea and read more about it.

 

[Streathamite]

Lovely post Yuwipi Woman . Yes. It’s one of my favourite stories from Judaism, there’s this idea that at any one time the world contains 36 truly good people , these tzadiks, and they are the reason god hadn’t destroyed everything in his bitter disappointment as yet. The 36 don’t know they’re them, because anyone who thought so wouldn’t be humble so would be inevitably not be the real thing. Her death made me remember that idea and read more about it.

I think the '36' comes from the idea that at any one time there are 36 righteous gentiles alive at any one time, but I may be wrong.
Again, RIP RBG - global icon of equality. Millions of women, and members of the LGBTQ+ community, and persons of colour, have a reason to light a candle in your memory today.
I doubt whether we will ever see thousands flocking to hold a vigil for the passing of any other judge, in my lifetime

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Just so no one thinks her cases only benefitted women:

 

[Streathamite]

I must admit, I'm welling up a bit reading and re-reading this thread.
It just underlines how important it is that the Dems at all costs stop Trump and NcConnell ramraiding the appointment of her replacement through.

 

[frogwoman]

It's

I think the '36' comes from the idea that at any one time there are 36 righteous gentiles alive at any one time, but I may be wrong.
Again, RIP RBG - global icon of equality. Millions of women, and members of the LGBTQ+ community, and persons of colour, have a reason to light a candle in your memory today.
I doubt whether we will ever see thousands flocking to hold a vigil for the passing of any other judge, in my lifetime

It's 36 righteous people that hold the world up (and don't know that they're in the 36), they can be Jews or non Jews

 

[Streathamite]

It's
It's 36 righteous people that hold the world up (and don't know that they're in the 36), they can be Jews or non Jews

ahhh...that's what it is. ta for that!

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I must admit, I'm welling up a bit reading and re-reading this thread.
It just underlines how important it is that the Dems at all costs stop Trump and NcConnell ramraiding the appointment of her replacement through.

It really shows how fragile the US system is. Losing one person shouldn't put the civil rights of millions of people at risk.

 

[Streathamite]

It really shows how fragile the US system is. Losing one person shouldn't put the civil rights of millions of people at risk.

Agreed, and it does precisely that.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dead at 87

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died on Friday, the court announced. She was 87.

www.google.com

Another spot on the Supreme Court for Trump to fill with one of his cronies.

She was a good woman. RIP Notorious RBG

I really don't get why she didn't step down while Obama was President so he could appoint a younger liberal judge. They've got a really stupid system in the US.

 

[Nylock]

I really don't get why she didn't step down while Obama was President so he could appoint a younger liberal judge. They've got a really stupid system in the US.

In order to guarantee that going through she would have had to retire back when the dems controlled both houses, or at least the Senate. That's the first three years of Obama's first term. Even with the tea party loons running around, no-one could have predicted how bad things would have deteriorated by now. Up until it wasn't a joke anymore, the prospect of a trump presidency was always seen as a total joke and a near impossibility. I'd imagine even in their darkest fantasies, they would not have envisioned quite how bad a president and presidency trump embodies.

 

[Streathamite]

I really don't get why she didn't step down while Obama was President so he could appoint a younger liberal judge. They've got a really stupid system in the US.

To back up what Nylock said, it would have had to happen between 2008 and 2010. Plus, they would have had to get a shift on, as the GOP would have pulled every delaying tactic in the book.
The norm for SC justices is that they are already of mature years by the time they get there, and then they tend to go on for a very long time; carking it whilst still in office is as frequent as retirement.
Plus, as Nylock said, back then US politics was for the most part sane. She could not possibly have predicted how utterly beyond-belief batshit mental things would become.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This woman is likely to be Trump's nominee to take Ginsburg's place:

Amy Coney Barrett's Connection to People of Praise Explained

Amy Coney Barrett and her husband both belong to the People of Praise group, which teaches that men have authority over their wives.

www.newsweek.com

I've been hearing for a couple of years that the Republicans wanted the deciding vote against Roe v. Wade to be a woman.