nino_savatte
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Does anyone else find fattboy's txtspk rlly fckng annyng? 
russias savage treatment of the chechen muslims and the wests tacit approval
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ViolentPanda
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Wrong.fattboy said:
If you're going to talk about ordnance, please have the decency to know what you're talking about.
What you're referring to is a thermobaric bomb. It doesn't utilise a vacuum, entirely the opposite. It replies on extreme compression of air to disperse inflammable liquid in a vapour cloud and then ignites it, sending out a massive pressure wave as well as incinerating the blast epicentre. Anyone using the term "vacuum bomb" hasn't quite worked out the difference between explosive and implosive forces.
Even the largest thermobaric explosive can only just generate the destructive power of a low-yield nuke, though.
E2A:
Thermobarics can also only cause vacuum-effects in certain topographic circumstances.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Roadkill said:
I do believe he is a new species, of a kind we have not seen here.
Badger Kitten
oof
fattboy said:
Yeah, I watched that. I get some guy saying men have to pay for and protect women and that men and women are not equal.
Well, sorreee, but I want to work. I want to wear what I want. I want to live my own life. I want to be equal to my husband. My husband has no right to beat me, with a tooth-brush-sized implement or anything else. I have no right to beat him. Etc.
What that man in the video you linked to is talking about is a world where women are valued as childbearers and wives. My life is about more than being a child bearer or a wife. It has always been about more than that.I may choose to never have children.
So if that is supposed to make me think positively of your position on women or the fundementalist caricature of Islam's position on women, it has failed.
I am nobody's property, and I want nobody to pay for me. My realm is the world, not the home. I want to work and walk in the world my own way. I am not a 7th century woman. The man in the video is talking patronising bollocks. If you agree with him, then I am sorry for you, because the arguments he make are pathetic.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
it does'nt matter what high tech death kit the Russians have got there perfectly happy using a heavy machine gun to destroy a village 
collateral damage isn't something they are bothered about
what the iraq war has produced is appalling
but the russians would have made it even more horrible
collateral damage isn't something they are bothered about
what the iraq war has produced is appalling
but the russians would have made it even more horrible
Dillinger4 said:
I'm not so sure. He reminds me of Windsor.
ViolentPanda
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Good points. You don't need a thermobaric device to ruin a village, you can do as much damage with some jerrycans of petrol and a few wp grenades if you don't fancy shooting it up.likesfish said:it does'nt matter what high tech death kit the Russians have got there perfectly happy using a heavy machine gun to destroy a village
collateral damage isn't something they are bothered about
what the iraq war has produced is appalling
but the russians would have made it even more horrible
IMO the Russians are following their preferred strategy: Total war. I doubt it even occurs to them (especially given that they still have conscripts to throw into the grinder) to operate any other way. The Chechen nationalists will only "win" when the Russians notice that the price in bodies (and, more importantly, given their turn to capitalism, bad PR) is higher than they can afford to pay. Even then they'll probably go the US route, aim for a "friendly" president in power.
Dillinger4
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Lock&Light said:
Similar, but windor struck me as even more insanse.
ViolentPanda
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Trollus Pseudo-Islamicus Fuckwittii?Dillinger4 said:
ViolentPanda
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Although if fattboy starts chuntering about chemtrails and twin suns....Dillinger4 said:
ViolentPanda
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yield said:
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
ViolentPanda said:
hey, i made that joke days ago!
ViolentPanda said:
If it's a troll, it's a good one. If not, it's a little worrying.
Re. windsor, I was browsing the BBC religion forums a while back and I'm fairly sure she posts on there under the name of Chaiyah: lots of wibbling about chem trails, and the odd mention of reptilians to boot.
ViolentPanda
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butchersapron said:
Sorry, must have missed it.
Fuchs66
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I honestly dont think that the Russians give a flying fuck about bad PR especially now that the Islamic fundis have given them the perfect answer all line: "we are part of the war on terror, 'onest Guv'", and the lives of their own squaddies dont hold a lot of sway either, I think they'll hurt if it hits them in the wallet too much.ViolentPanda said:
I have recently seen some "good news" stories from Chechnya with echoes of those from Afg and Iraq about rebuilding Grosny, relative peace, stability etc etc, seems as though they've been taking notes.
ViolentPanda
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That'd have been a good'un for the compulsive hooverer that lived above me back when I lived in bedsitland; an IED set to detonate and soon as he stomped the "on" switch".Fuchs66 said:I nearly said something about boobytrapped Hoovers earlier but thought the better of it
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
ViolentPanda said:
Badger Kitten
oof
Sometimes I think he is a troll but I have actually had long conversations with young blokes who carry on like him. I dunno, but he is provoking some interesting debate, and I think people have worked out that he is representing a particular fundie viewpoint, with some extra lunacy bonus features thrown in.
ViolentPanda
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That's why I mentioned capitalism. Bad PR might scare off a few customers, or (worse, from the Russian perspective) make them re-negotiate existing deals along the lines of "...well, I can get 'em elsewhere cheaper, and I won't get hassled by peaceniks".Fuchs66 said:
I suspect that, like me, you've noticed how all the "good" stories focus on urban areas, where "policing" of the behaviour of the local population is easier, have you?
Dillinger4
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There are real life people who don't know what they are talking either.
ViolentPanda
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He does come across as either a troll or a zealot, and zealotry isn't (even when "justified" through religious arguments) usually about religion as much as it is about the justification of violence.Badger Kitten said:
Fuchs66
Ring a ding
Hasn't worried the "customers too much so far though has it?ViolentPanda said:
Oh aye a la Iraq/Afg to be taken with a large pinch of salt.ViolentPanda said:I suspect that, like me, you've noticed how all the "good" stories focus on urban areas, where "policing" of the behaviour of the local population is easier, have you?
likesfish
You can't park here sir
I don't think the west has tacit approval of cheneya rather NO idea of anything effective that could be done
russian can veto the un
sells gas to the EU so no sanctions
military force no chance not even the yanks are up for ww3
diplomacy yeah that relies on the russians giving at least the impression of giving a shit
russian can veto the un
sells gas to the EU so no sanctions
military force no chance not even the yanks are up for ww3
diplomacy yeah that relies on the russians giving at least the impression of giving a shit
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