Russian bombers operating out of Indonesia

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by planetgeli, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Australian air force put on alert after Russian long-range bombers headed south

    Russian aircraft make a flight from Amur region to Indonesia within international visit : Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation

    In some ways a non-story as all the operations appear to have been carried out with strict adherence to international law. In other ways, most definitely a story of interest as Russia makes a show of extending their influence militarily into the Asian Pacific with the help of Indonesia.

    Russia appears to be looking for and making friends in its bid for further influence. The story also makes reference to significant military help to Fiji, which isn’t going to come without strings attached.

    Australia isn’t going to be that happy about long range bombers with nuclear capabilities being stationed within range of its territory.

    Russia is going to be happy with getting a foothold into the burdgeoning Asia-Pacific economy.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2017
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Another ember in the coming general war glows a brighter red
     
  3. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    see I saw this story and the one about how the royal navy had to 'escort' some russian boats near UK waters over chrimble. Bit tinfoil here, but is this just normal-for-russia and being talked up because ooh the russian hackers stole brexit and got trump elected, the bear is awake so be scared stuff.

    of course if this is not Business as Usual then my theory is shot
     
  4. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Up against the wall motherfucker.

  5. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    It's not too bad dying in middle age in a global thermonuclear war, as we've had our carefree youth. :)
     
  6. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Yes, it ends any concerns about an auld age spent in penury :)
     
  7. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    The TN-AUI used to penetrate Australian air space regularly in the 60s with their Tu-16s (probably crewed by Sovs) and made claims of being able to see the lights of Alice Springs.

    This caused the RAAF to trade their Sabres in for Mirage IIIs and start 24/7 QRA from Tindal.
     
  8. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  9. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    We'd better start maxing out the credit card now. :cool:
     
  10. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    If he's been seconded to the Russian armed forces we won't have anything to worry about, as he'll wreck any plans they have through his innate abilities.
     
  11. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    Meh. I doubt anyone is ever going to nuke anyone else from a plane any more. On the other hand, the whole of Australia will be putting in a noise complaint.
     
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  12. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    The bears a maritime recce plane these days. Nobody is expecting it to drop bombs on anyone ever again allegedly the only plane that can be heard by subs without the aid of sonar:D.
    its not quite BBMF level but its no newer than the yanks B52's and those are used for lobbing cruise missiles from a safe distance or bombing Pathans armed with sharpened mango slices
     
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  13. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    I think some people are getting bogged down in the technical details of the military capabilities of the individual tech involved as opposed to the political ramifications of Russia operating out of Asian-Pacific countries and what that might imply for the balance of world powers in a region of emerging importance.
     
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  14. bubblesmcgrath

    bubblesmcgrath Well-Known Member

    There goes my pension plan then :mad:
     
  15. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    I'd rather a few more years, mind. Like 30...
     
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  16. bubblesmcgrath

    bubblesmcgrath Well-Known Member

    I'd be happy with 10 more years
     
  17. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    Just ten? :(
     
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  18. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Going, going...

    ;)
     
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  19. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    Japan won't care for it, I imagine. Disputed islands, past history etc.
     
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  20. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    Is this the same Asia-Pacific region where the USA has bases, ships, aircraft and is doing its very best to re-start a vicious war that will have global consequences? The same one where the only country ever to use nuclear bombs in anger killed 10's of 1000's of people instantaneously?
     
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  21. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    [​IMG]

    a few nearly 40-year-old bombers are not changing anything really the Russians don't have the logistic reach anymore. Russias doing the British punching above its weight without the actual logistic capability or budget to keep it up. the last time they sent a fleet to Australia they had to take a tow ship with them in case anything broke down. Russia is about 4th or 5th on the go off and bother[​IMG] somebody on the other side of the world league below the UK and France on that score.[​IMG]


    also america has its carriers and the USMC
     
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  22. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Yes, that one. Which, along with the strengthening of the economy there, makes this significant.
     
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  23. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    I admire your technical and practical knowledge. Now, if you could actually address my post you quoted, as opposed to reinforcing what it says about people ignoring the politics of this...
     
  24. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    He's gone to ground in the Wilds of Wales. Perhaps he knows something :hmm:
     
  25. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank We kill the flame

    Some of us here are not so old as to have become indifferent to the continuance of our lives you know.
     
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  26. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)


    Russia isn't really a world power these days Comparison Results of World Military Strengths
    its budget for the military is similar to the Uk so even given the MoD's hilarious incompetence and Russias tendency to feed conscripts on soup trying to keep thousands of more bits of kit operational on the same budget something is giving. Its all a bit fur coat and no knickers the military is hollow its aircraft carrier was showing signs of really really poor maintenance and that was the flagship. showing the flag in Indonesia and actually keeping a full-time presence the UK has had a permanent base in Singapore since forever.
     
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  27. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    I don't care about you. :thumbs:
     
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  28. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    You can't separate the two. The political gesture that this might be intended to convey is confined by the military practicalities. Commentators can bang on about the emergence of a modern Russian military with an expeditionary mindset - we've all seen it before with all this 'Russian bombers in UK airspace' or 'Admiral Kuznetsov goes to Syria' - but it's inherently limited by the fact that it's not a particularly strong capability, and the direction of travel for it isn't much better.

    What do you think this stuff means, a new Cold War? Can't start a new Cold War if you haven't got any toys or any money to buy them.
     
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  29. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Should think the US 7th Fleet alone could give Russia a run for its money in theatre.
     
  30. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    it looked to me like the direction of travel for Assad was a-topplin. That didn't happen because this 4th rate military arrived to back the monster up (ok simplistic but bear with me). Now what is it, do you think, that would stop NATO or whover deciding to crush this inferior army? what elephant in the room means you can go up to the bigger man and stand right there and say 'go on then'? 3 guesses.

    thats before we get to money and influence and oil/gas.
     
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