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Some Nazis had a stall outside the house of culture :eek: in Ryazan in 2004. Nobody took much notice.
 
sihhi said:
There was something on Anarkismo about apparently a neo-Nazi attack and murder of a Russian anarchist
http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=1839

Putin's youth group is called Nashi (which means ours) apparently- it is not racist in any official sense- but it is 100% pro-Putin therefore pro-Russian centralist and anti-Chechen nationalist.

It is very different from Rossiskaya Natsionalnaya Yedinost (Russian natl unity) which I believe is openly racist and anti-semitic iirc.

I don't think anyone has claimed any similarity between the two groups.
 
It's really sad and I expect a large part of the problem stems from poverty and obvious frustration with perceived wealthy foreigners. Makes you worry that the same thing could happen over here if we had economic problems. Russia has been so isolated for a long time and treated appallingly over the last 15 years, could be so much better but it's hard to say whether far-right movements and racism existed before in the country but reading an excellent book on Russia it was clear that social breakdown was occurring all through the 80's.
 
I watched a documentary once about a day in the life of teenagers in different parts of the world.

The Russian contribution was a skin-head. He was saying how he hates them, all these Asians and Indians and foreigners coming to his country, he hates them so much! Then we watched him join a skin-head group, a few older organized-crime looking like guys in the background, and a bunch of other ignorant-as-fuck teenage boys around. They had this ceremony where the mafia-thug-recruiter guy held a German and a Russian WW2 helmet in each hand and the yoots had to kiss each one and repeat some lines about Germans and Russians being brothers driven to fight by jews and lesser beings or something.

A Russian from circa 1940s Stalingrad say, would have let out a hideous yell and proceeded to beat all the people there to a ripped and bloody pulp, and then just kept right on pounding, blood-spattered face flowing with tears all the while.

I reckon Russia was severly attacked by the West once Yeltsin got in, heard a quote once about the rise of the russian moguls and the privatisation of Russias national utilities, "they turned a virgin into a whore" someone said. that's why I'm not so quick to swallow the Western media spin on what happened to... er, that super-rich oil bloke that got arrested and is having his asssets stripped. Russia probably needs abit of a hard-nut like Putin to keep the neo-libs and Washingtons agents from reducing Russia to a half-price special offer deal in Asda or something, but at the same time that place will only progress with less of a need for the old Strongman/oppression vibe. If old 'Birthmark' had had things his way, maybe Russia would be in a better position now, with less fuckwits praising the ideologies and memories of the Nazi scum that killed so many millions as ifg they were rats to be cleared from the liebenstraum of the Greater Reich.
 
foreigner said:
Russia probably needs abit of a hard-nut like Putin to keep the neo-libs and Washingtons agents from reducing Russia to a half-price special offer deal in Asda or something

But are Russian people actually making a positive choice to back Putin?
 
Ryazan said:
A cynicism about poltics among the people I know.

That's the impression I get (from newpaper reports and World Service) about Russian society- an overwhelming (if anything growing since 2000) cynicism and mistrust of nearly all "politics" and "politicians".
 
In not only Moscow, but in my gf's home town her peers certainly aren't moderately well off, and struggle a lot. Two of them have young families and they are concentrating on the day to day, than with wider politics. That is not to say thay are completely unaware, they don't want to engage with politics, as they do not trust anyone.
 
Ryazan said:
In not only Moscow, but in my gf's home town her peers certainly aren't moderately well off, and struggle a lot. Two of them have young families and they are concentrating on the day to day, than with wider politics. That is not to say thay are completely unaware, they don't want to engage with politics, as they do not trust anyone.
they're right not to, if everything they told you gets posted on the interweb for all and sundry to gawp at.
 
Pickman's model said:
they're right not to, if everything they told you gets posted on the interweb for all and sundry to gawp at.


That's an odd responce Pickman's model aka the political dissident Simon Jenkins of 123 Ogilvy Drive Manchester, why on Earth would you say that?
 
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