Rumsfeld standing down

[fanciful]

What the US ones? According to the Lancet report the occupying forces had been directly responsible for a third of the extra deaths that have been inflicted on the Iraqi population since the invasion. Around 200,000 people.
Nasty as some of the Islamicists are they don't even get close to that.

 

[lostexpectation]

there going to try again in germany to get him charge on war crimes

 

[Dandred]

Anyone want a US site to rip the piss out of the right wing nutters.....

PM me

 

[david dissadent]

Schadenfreude is not pleasant. But go on just once..........

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110906/rumsfeld2.html

(Summary Republican law makers are not happy with the timing of ditching Rumsfeld apparently.)

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Well, it rather appears that Rumsfeld, and several other war criminals associated with the Bush regime had better avoid visiting Germany.

Just days after his resignation, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. <snip>

Along with Rumsfeld, Gonzales and Tenet, the other defendants in the case are Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen Cambone; former assistant attorney general Jay Bybee; former deputy assisant attorney general John Yoo; General Counsel for the Department of Defense William James Haynes II; and David S. Addington, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff. Senior military officers named in the filing are General Ricardo Sanchez, the former top Army official in Iraq; Gen. Geoffrey Miller, the former commander of Guantanamo; senior Iraq commander, Major General Walter Wojdakowski; and Col. Thomas Pappas, the one-time head of military intelligence at Abu Ghraib.

Germany was chosen for the court filing because German law provides "universal jurisdiction" allowing for the prosecution of war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

 

[ska invita]

Well, it rather appears that Rumsfeld, and several other war criminals associated with the Bush regime had better avoid visiting Germany.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

Come on the Germans!

Where is the trial to be held? Could Rumsfeld et al be forced to testify under international laws? Would an extradition order be required?

 

[nino_savatte]

And now some poetry

The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.

—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

Then there's

You go to war with the army you have, not the army you want.

A fine thing to say your troops as they're losing their lives in a pointless war for oil.

 

[marksl]

Dont get your hopes up of america or the uk being friendly with iran its still early days. The iranians have had years of abuse from the american admin put on a axis of evil list and threatened with war, from their stand point why believe anything has changed? they need allot of convincing that take months/years if our goverments are serious.

 

[Maltin]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/03/w...&en=e9d758c9885fe7c1&ei=5094&partner=homepage