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Rumsfeld may face abuse charges

Bernie Gunther

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I mentioned this on the Rumsfeld resigns thread, but I think it's entertaining enough that it may deserve its own thread :)

Donald Rumsfeld, who quit as US defence secretary this week, may face criminal charges in Germany for alleged abuses in Guantanamo Bay and Iraq.<snip>

The lawyer group alleges that Mr Rumsfeld personally approved torture to be used to extract information from the prisoners.

It is also seeking to prosecute US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and former CIA director George Tenet, among others.

The group's complaint will be filed to German federal prosecutors on Tuesday, a spokesperson for the group said
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6138480.stm

More detail here: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

If this goes ahead, the US is extremely unlikely to extradite to Germany, but it does mean that Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Tenet, Cambone, Yoo et al will need to think carefully about their holiday plans, and avoid Germany in case they end up on trial for war crimes there :)
 
Come on the Germans!

-Are there any laws which might force an extradition? What if they were to visita fellow EU country?
 
That's a point. I seem to recall the reason the UK government grabbed Pinochet was that he was wanted in Spain under similar charges.
 
Some detail on which crimes under international law one could plausibly prosecute Rumsfeld (and many others) for
Prosecuting a war of aggression isn't Rumsfeld's only crime. He also participated in the highest levels of decision-making that allowed the extrajudicial execution of several people. Willful killing is a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions, which constitutes a war crime. In his book, Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib, Seymour Hersh described the "unacknowledged" special-access program (SAP) established by a top-secret order Bush signed in late 2001 or early 2002. It authorized the Defense Department to set up a clandestine team of Special Forces operatives to defy international law and snatch, or assassinate, anyone considered a "high-value" Al Qaeda operative, anywhere in the world. Rumsfeld expanded SAP into Iraq in August 2003.

But Rumsfeld's crimes don't end there. He sanctioned the use of torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, which are grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, and thus constitute war crimes. Rumsfeld approved interrogation techniques that included the use of dogs, removal of clothing, hooding, stress positions, isolation for up to 30 days, 20-hour interrogations, and deprivation of light and auditory stimuli. According to Seymour Hersh, Rumsfeld sanctioned the use of physical coercion and sexual humiliation to extract information from prisoners. Rumsfeld also authorized waterboarding, where the interrogator induces the sensation of imminent death by drowning. Waterboarding is widely considered a form of torture.

Rumsfeld was intimately involved with the interrogation of a Saudi detainee, Mohamed al-Qahtani, at Guantánamo in late 2002. General Geoffrey Miller, who later transferred many of his harsh interrogation techniques to Abu Ghaib, supervised the interrogation and gave Rumsfeld weekly updates on his progress. During a six-week period, al-Qahtani was stripped naked, forced to wear women's underwear on his head, denied bathroom access, threatened with dogs, forced to perform tricks while tethered to a dog leash, and subjected to sleep deprivation. Al-Qahtani was kept in solitary confinement for 160 days. For 48 days out of 54, he was interrogated for 18 to 20 hours a day.

Even though Rumsfeld didn't personally carry out the torture and mistreatment of prisoners, he authorized it. Under the doctrine of command responsibility, a commander can be liable for war crimes committed by his inferiors if he knew or should have known they would be committed and did nothing to stop of prevent them. The U.S. War Crimes Act provides for prosecution of a person who commits war crimes and prescribes life imprisonment, or even the death penalty if the victim dies.
source
 
woops! :)

Rumsfeld okayed abuses says former US army general...

Outgoing U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorised the mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, the prison's former U.S. commander said in an interview on Saturday.

Former U.S. Army Brigadier General Janis Karpinski told Spain's El Pais newspaper she had seen a letter apparently signed by Rumsfeld which allowed civilian contractors to use techniques such as sleep deprivation during interrogation.

Karpinski, who ran the prison until early 2004, said she saw a memorandum signed by Rumsfeld detailing the use of harsh interrogation methods.

"The handwritten signature was above his printed name and in the same handwriting in the margin was written: "Make sure this is accomplished"," she told Saturday's El Pais.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L25726413.htm
 
Just to widen the assault a little.

Thiis is a total indictment of the bush presidency.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1129-32.htm

To cut and paste from it would only be a waste of space,

but a little taster,

d) Iraq did not appear to have reconstituted its nuclear weapons program.

35. Escalation of Military Activity and Planning for Invasion of Iraq. On November 21, 2001, BUSH secretly ordered preparation of a formal war plan for invading Iraq. Thereafter, for sixteen months, the BUSH-CHENEY administration expended substantial U.S. government funds in military activity and planning for invasion of Iraq, all without notice to, or approval by, the U.S. Congress.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1129-32.htm

Do check it out.
 
Rumsferatu's chief henchman and Abu Ghraib bullshit artist Stephen Camborne has just announced he is to resign on Dec 31st :)

I get the feeling that the Iraq Study Group's recommendations next week are going to sting the Bush admin....
 
FBI workers saw Guantanamo abuse

At least 26 agency employees say they witnessed inmates being mistreated and subjected to harsh interrogation.

One reported seeing a man whose head was covered in duct tape, another saw detainees chained from hand to foot in the foetal position for up to 24 hours.

The report was released to a US civil liberties group fighting a law suit.

BBC

Odds on Rumsfeld doing a Pinochet, anyone?

E2A: This is a separate, US-based lawsuit :D
 
newharper said:
Just to widen the assault a little.

Thiis is a total indictment of the bush presidency.

Do check it out.

Thanks. One definition quoted (presumably from the US Constitution) struck me as relevant both to the Bush Administration and to Downing Street:

A "false" or "fraudulent" representation is one that is: (a) made with knowledge that it is untrue; (b) a half-truth; (c) made without a reasonable basis or with reckless indifference as to whether it is, in fact, true or false; or (d) literally true, but intentionally presented in a manner reasonably calculated to deceive a person of ordinary prudence and intelligence. The knowing concealment or omission of information that a reasonable person would consider important in deciding an issue also constitutes fraud.
 
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