Rugby Union 2017-18

Discussion in 'general sports' started by bendeus, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    Paul Rees's column thhis week is worth a read I think.

    Scotland’s leap ahead shows the way forward for Wales and South Africa | Paul Rees

    Especially this paragraph.

    "Wales is trying to build from the bottom upwards after, in terms of the grassroots, a wasted decade under the old WRU regime when all that mattered was the top. It had the effect of coating a stale cake with icing sugar and, abetted by a compliant media which would not ask awkward questions and a smart choice of national head coach in Warren Gatland, the governing body got away with it."

    And yeah I agree with bendeus , short to medium term we're fucked. A new coaching set up would be nice though.
     
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  2. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    And although I'm not a Llanelli fan I think it's tragic and frankly bizarre that Scott Williams is leaving to join the Ospreys.
     
  3. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Bloody hell. Yes, that para pretty much sums it up nicely.
     
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  4. bendeus

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    Wondering if Pivac, who is on record as saying Tim Cymru players are a liability in terms of season long consistency due to regular lack of availability has looked at his three Welsh qualified centres and deduced that SW is the most expendable of them all in terms of overall gameplan and skill set. Foxy the better 13 and Parkes the better 12. You therefore want a quality NWQ to be available as backup through the season, including international windows
     
  5. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    Yeah it makes sense in a very hard-nosed way but I think it's a shame that a player should leave his boyhood club to join the local rivals. Even more so when the club he's joining is self imploding.
     
  6. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Yeah. The last sentence is most telling. However, a scenario in which Pivac has basically told him he superfluous to requirements and has offered him a wage that reflects this, while at the same time being offered serious wedge by an Ospreys side desperate for a decent 13 does seem to be a very plausible scenario.
     
  7. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    Yep. I'm now even more intrigued to see who Pivac brings in next term as Barclay and Beirne are massive players for them.

    You bothering watching the game Saturday?
     
  8. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Possibly. Might get drunk first :)
     
  9. bendeus

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    Pivac is also on the WRU's three-man shortlist to replace Gatland. I'd be pretty happy to see him as head coach with Wellies masterminding attack
     
  10. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    Yeah they'd do a good job with a decent forwards coach, not sure if Scarlets fans would be too happy about that mind!
     
  11. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    We cursed them - they were shite this evening!
     
  12. bendeus

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    Ah, but we must all make sacrifices for the greater glory of Tim Cymru, no?
     
  13. gosub

    gosub ~#

    I still have fingernails left:cool:
     
  14. bendeus

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    Abject second half performance. Still, I guess that side was essentially Wales A and as such did pretty well, even if it was against perennial whipping boys, South Africa
     
  15. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    gutted I missed the Wasps game - sounds like it was a cracker, and with it, we're up to 5th. Top 4 by the end of the year!
     
  16. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Perennial? its only the 4th time we've ever managed it!
     
  17. bendeus

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    That was kind of the joke, 1927 :)
     
  18. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    sorry!
     
  19. bendeus

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    In fairness they have been perennial whipping boys if you only started counting from last year.
     
  20. Grandma Death

    Grandma Death Reconfiguring & Reconstructing

    I quite enjoyed the game today. Thought boks deserved it though. Clearly better team second half. Have to admit never heard of that Hadleigh fella. He played well. Was impressed by amos today as well.
     
  21. Grandma Death

    Grandma Death Reconfiguring & Reconstructing

    Is it because he isnt getting picked regularly for the Scarlets thats what I read
     
  22. bendeus

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    Think it's as simple as the fact that SW is a better 13 than he is a 12 but he's not as good a 13 as Foxy (few are). He can full in admirably at 12 but Pivac seems to think that Parkes is the superior inside centre (I'd agree), which leaves SW playing second string.

    At the Os, with their longterm problems at outside centre, Scott would be the first name on the teamsheet. The move makes sense for all parties, tbh
     
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  23. bendeus

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    Grandma Death - c&p'd this from Gwlad, who in turn must've done the same from the Times or the Rugby paper. It's McGeechan's take on Wales' current predicament and why our lack of dynamic ball carriers is a serious impediment to our getting anywhere with the current crop of players. Well worth a read (his bizarre assessment of Steff Evans having had a good series notwithstanding):

    Our current ball carrying options up front are Rob Evans, Owens and Faletau. That's it. Compare that to England's riches and weep.

    E2A: Paul Rees also highlighting carrying as a significant weakness in today's Graun online: Victory over Springboks must not lull Wales into false sense of security | Paul Rees
     
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  24. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

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  25. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    some cracking European games this weekend
     
  26. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    This Ospreys Saints game is hilarious
     
  27. flypanam

    flypanam Local oaf

    Over played the Danny Care handing that article. He was off form today. Went to the stoop and Cooney was everything Care is meant to be. I like care but he was conservative today, granted the conditions were shite, but he limited his game to passing. We were defending two back but Gilroy is weak going backwards, Care could have dinked a ball into space but didn’t. Still great win for us and some of our dodgy fans.
     
  28. bendeus

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    Given the utter shambles that is the Os at present I'd say that result says volumes about where Saints currently find themselves. They sounded like the keystone cops in the first half
     
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  29. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    Ouch @Sarries
     
  30. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Jesus! Just seen the result :eek:
     

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