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Rugby: Summer Tours

Shite game by the sounds. Aus are really no great shakes these days. Wish Wales were touring there instead of Saffrica.
 
Heh. It was Bastareaud (fantastic name for a rugby player, BTW). He's a fucking big lump, and as a guy who is regularly starting for his club (Stade), I would consider him to be 'talismanic' at U21 level. He caused Wales loads of problems during the last U21 6N game I saw him involved in.

We, however, have lost Gareth Owen, who is just as influential. Wales win due to home advantage, but not by much.

Didn't realise he was starting for Stade (don't think i've seen a Stade game since January). Fair play. He certainly is a big lump tho - le bulldozer de Massy they call him.

That Ireland reslut gives me a slight gliommer of hope about our games against the OZs.
 
Good effort Wales. Huge improvement overall. The 9 point gap would have been a more realistic score but a loss is a loss.
 
NZ 37-20 England, SA 37-21 Wales. Just goes to show how the score actually tells you nothing about the game. England were third rate and were taken to the proverbial cleaners, whilst Wales should and could have won the game.

I was hoping they were going to win so that I would not be accused of sour grapes for what I am about to say, but that was one of the worst displays I have seen by an international referee. He was totally inconsistent, penalising us for offences he allowed SA to get away with all afternoon. There were scrums when penalties should have been awarded, and I was quite suprised to see that SA did not run out in red shirts for teh secong half they spent so much time on our side of the ball! They were cynical in their play, runners in front of the man clearing a way for the ball carrier, standing offside to protect the catcher at kick offs, and they got away with everything. How the fuck that last try was awarded I dont know, his arm was short of the line, and the ball was behind his arm ffs!

The NZ ref was either giving them a thank you for casting the vote which gave NZ the RWC, or more likely the international betting cartels have their grubby money in rugby now as well as cricket.
 
Having said all that I was impressed with the performance. Right now, under Edwards, we are playing rugby with an intensity I have rarely if ever seen from a wales team. I thought Jamie was superb in the centre, and linking up with Henson when he's fit could be an awesome combination. Hook was wasted at FB imho, he has never played there before, SJ has. Hook should have got the OH berth with SJ at FB. Atleast today we looked up for it, cracked a few heads and let them know we were there. SA are after all the World Champs and, I dont think I am looking thru rose tinted galsses wehn I say, we were not far behind them today, the gap mis closing.

One word about Ickle, what planet is he from? The man has got to be the best player in the world at this moment in time. graham Henry refused to pick him ion the basis that he was too small to make it at international level, right oh Graham! Where would he rank in an all time list of wingers?
 
I was hoping they were going to win so that I would not be accused of sour grapes for what I am about to say, but that was one of the worst displays I have seen by an international referee. He was totally inconsistent, penalising us for offences he allowed SA to get away with all afternoon. There were scrums when penalties should have been awarded, and I was quite suprised to see that SA did not run out in red shirts for teh secong half they spent so much time on our side of the ball! They were cynical in their play, runners in front of the man clearing a way for the ball carrier, standing offside to protect the catcher at kick offs, and they got away with everything. How the fuck that last try was awarded I dont know, his arm was short of the line, and the ball was behind his arm ffs!

OK, genuine question from a football fan who watches rugby a bit. Is something like that ever not the case? It just seems to me as though rugby reffing is so totally subjective that there are always going to be complaints like this.
 
How the fuck that last try was awarded I dont know, his arm was short of the line, and the ball was behind his arm ffs
Definitely not a try-it was about 2-3 inches short of the line!:eek:
Good game of rugby tho and a lot closer than the scoreline suggests -Wales can take a lot of positives from that display -a lot more intensity around the breakdown from the forwards-Shane Williams-the guy can break the line at will and score dream tries
Jamie Roberts looks good as well a big lump who caught a couple of dodgy passes on his knees and got up and broke a few tackles
Wales vs SA in Cardiff could be interesting
 
I was at a wedding yesterday so didn't see the match. Just saw highlights of Shane's try on youtube. That little fella is truly unique. Very, very rarely do players with that degree of flair come round - he is truly breathtaking. Without doubt the best winger in world rugby at the moment. His strike rate over the last year and a half has been a try per game, and a number of those tries he has created from absolutely nothing. With guys like Rococoko, Sivivatu and Habana he has a lot of competition, but he's head and shoulders (not literally, of course) above them all right now.

Shane=god
 
Oh, and Wales U21 beat France 23-19 to book their semi final berth :)
I went over to watch this. First time in the Liberty Stadium, too, which was nice (quite liked it, although it was well sad tosee St Helens boarded up earlier on in the day).
It was a good game, and very tough and intense. Quite a few niggles between players throughout and a few yellow cards.
I'm gonna look like sour grapes now, as well, but... Looking from the sidelines without th benefit of action replays I'd say the Australian referee was **incredibly** biased towards the French throughout the game.
Wales were pretty good. Halfpenny kicked everything including some difficult ones, there was plenty of intensity at the breakdown, too. The backs didn't look like scoring a try for most of the game, though.
The French looked the stronger side going forward, dominated posession, and were very strong in the forwards, especially with a very effective rolling maul that seemed to make 15-20 yards avery other time they tried it.
Wales managed to hang on in there by the skin of their teeth, and they scored two tries in the last 8 minutes of the game (both scores were in added time for stoppages). The French were broken. Couldn't believe it.
As son as the final whistle blew a 20 man brawl kicked off and loads of players piled in... looked like a huge playground pile-on.
 
Fucking hell, that sounds great.

Any chance of online footage?
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Link to BBC story with a photo here.
Highlights of the match including some video of the fight here.
 
Looking at it again I still can't see who's to blame for starting it, but there were some proper punches thrown by both sides once it got going, as there would be.
I read somewhere it started after a Wesl player went to shake hands with a French man who instead head-butted him.:(
Rugby's the loser... etc, etc.
Enjoyable punch-up to watch, though.:o
 
Was anyone at the Wales-France game? What the hell had been boing on that merited 8 minutes of extra play? Did the welsh just keep the ball alive for that long or what?

Nice to see a good generale though.
 
Was anyone at the Wales-France game? What the hell had been boing on that merited 8 minutes of extra play? Did the welsh just keep the ball alive for that long or what?

Nice to see a good generale though.

The ref was terrrible all game. Wouldn't surprise me if he just forgot to look at his watch.
He was awarding stuff to France all the time, almost as a default, even thought they were living offside, killing the ball all the time, etc.
It was really strange when he didn't blow up. What's the situation with time keeping in these games? Is it possible he didn't stop the clock at all and just played extra time to compensate? That's the only excuse I could think of. The French were getting well cheesed off, though.
It was one of the main contributors to the massive dust-up that followed, I'd say.
 
That's about the most one-sided 37-20 I've ever seen - England competed for the first twenty minutes and were then blown away by (amongst other failings) a complete lack of any midfield. NZ were streets ahead.

I mention just for interest, Topsy Ojo's brother - I think its his brother - has got a blog of sorts:
http://www.rugbynetwork.net/main/s97/st130097.htm

Agree with him about McCaw, any good 7 has got to be a bit snidey but it was so flagrant.
 
The ref was terrrible all game. Wouldn't surprise me if he just forgot to look at his watch.
He was awarding stuff to France all the time, almost as a default, even thought they were living offside, killing the ball all the time, etc.
It was really strange when he didn't blow up. What's the situation with time keeping in these games? Is it possible he didn't stop the clock at all and just played extra time to compensate? That's the only excuse I could think of. The French were getting well cheesed off, though.
It was one of the main contributors to the massive dust-up that followed, I'd say.

Funny you should say that as there is a welsh poster on a nother forum I go on saying that the ref was giving everything to Wales :D.

Anyways, seems as if the ball just didn't go dead until wales scored. Shame for the French given they were leading (iirc) 19-9 until the last few minutes, but fair play the welsh for keeping at it.

Oh, and on second viewing the brawl wasn't really that bad - looked as if a lot of the folk involved were trying to break it up/calm things down. Not quite up there with a good SW France generale - needed a few fans and players grannies to get involved.
 
apologies for the delayed bump bump but I've been away for a while. Anyways, as expected Frane got trounced by the wallabies - 34-13 an 40-10. Although given that it was a fourth string team and the aussies just gubbed the ABs 34-19 that may be a decent showing.

Oh, and Toulouse beat ASM to the Brennus - 26-20 in the final. ASM's ninth (and sceond consecutive) defeat in the final. I believe they hold the record for the most appearances in the french champo finals without havingwon the thing :D
 
While in other news the Wabblies gave the second string ABs a right fucking reaming in a fantastic game of rugby league.

Interesting that the ELVs seem to benefit Australia, and particularly Waugh and Smith, more than they do any other nation. Especially given it was the Shackle Draggers who wrote them, apparently to 'save' rugby.

Well save it they haven't. A more disjointed, stop starty affair than this year's tri-nations it is impossible to imagine. The ELVs haven't made the game better to watch - quite the opposite. It's just grass shagging lite.

It took the convicts 23 fucking rule changes to suit their game to actually become any fucking good. Will the northern hemisphere actually sit back and let this crap become enshrined, or will they tell the fucking Aussies to either go and play rugby league or stop messing with rules that aren't broken.

Fuck off, John O'Neill:mad:
 
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