Rufus Hound - attention-seeking plonker
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Fozzie Bear
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I doubt many people here will be too troubled about which side to pick in this fight.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
I think that others should be warned of the NHS being ripped apart by a bunch of cunts. If it takes Rufus Hound to do that so that the masses actually notice, so be it.
If it's quartz v Hound, I want them both to be stretchered off after being hit by bottles flung from the crowd.
Fozzie Bear
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What about Hound v Quartz, Toby Young and David Cameron, though?
Kicked to death by homophobic thugs after attempting to staging a naked, crisco'd-up wrestling matched on Hampstead heath.
There can only be one answer to that - What about him?
Fozzie Bear
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danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
I know next to nothing about RufusHound, except that he used to have a weird moustache, likes Dr Who, and wrote this:
The NHS is the one of the single greatest achievements of any civilisation, ever, anywhere in the history of the world. Great Britain decided that being broken wasn’t your fault. If bits of you got smashed off, started going wrong or gave up entirely, it would do it’s best to stick them back on, put them right or find you a new one. It essentially made being healthy a human right.
Up until 1948, only wealthy people had access to doctors. Your likelihood of surviving disease was based on your income. In other words, if you were poor, you were fucked. Then came World War Two and with it a generation of young Britons who died in foreign fields, fought for queen and country, opposed fascism and sacrificed nearly everything. The only way through it was for everyone to pull together – prince and pauper, dustman and duke. The sense of nationhood that sprang from this tragedy, the sense that “we’re all in this together”, meant that within three years of the war finishing it was decided that the state would cover the healthcare costs of its citizens. That, regardless of your own personal wealth, you could expect medical attention as and when you needed it.
In short, compassion won.
Well, it won for a short while. The millionaires that currently run things have decided that you (assuming you’re not a member of the Bullingdon Club, or a trustafarian) can go fuck yourself. This place is for them, not you. Why should you get free healthcare? Why can’t they take that big pot of money ear-marked for medicine and just start sharing it out amongst themselves? People are desperate when they’re sick and nothing’s as easier to monetise than desperation. Big, rich, private heathcare companies have donated millions to the Conservative party and now they’re calling in the debt. Jeremy Hunt is killing the NHS so that his owners can bleed you dry.
I don’t believe the NHS is perfect or that it doesn’t need to change. I have known people have terrible times and feel completely betrayed by it. Sad, but true. However, the vast majority of those who use it are delighted. The NHS is composed of incredible human beings whose capacity to care is a combination of vocation, education and genuine kindness. Of course some of them screw up from time to time – sometimes with tragic results – but that’s because they’re human beings. Fallible human beings. And if you employ over a million of them, (as the NHS does), mistakes will be made. The NHS is imperfect, yes, but it’s still totally kick-ass.
It’s also the most cost effective health care system in the world. For every pound spent on the NHS, it returns a value of five times that to the economy. And we need to stop taking it for granted and tell the shower of outright bastards that are stealing it from us to back off. It’s ours, not theirs.
http://rufushound.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/david-and-jeremy-want-your-kids-to-die-unless-youre-rich/
If we're choosing sides here, on the whole I'm on the side of those words and the fella that wrote them.Up until 1948, only wealthy people had access to doctors. Your likelihood of surviving disease was based on your income. In other words, if you were poor, you were fucked. Then came World War Two and with it a generation of young Britons who died in foreign fields, fought for queen and country, opposed fascism and sacrificed nearly everything. The only way through it was for everyone to pull together – prince and pauper, dustman and duke. The sense of nationhood that sprang from this tragedy, the sense that “we’re all in this together”, meant that within three years of the war finishing it was decided that the state would cover the healthcare costs of its citizens. That, regardless of your own personal wealth, you could expect medical attention as and when you needed it.
In short, compassion won.
Well, it won for a short while. The millionaires that currently run things have decided that you (assuming you’re not a member of the Bullingdon Club, or a trustafarian) can go fuck yourself. This place is for them, not you. Why should you get free healthcare? Why can’t they take that big pot of money ear-marked for medicine and just start sharing it out amongst themselves? People are desperate when they’re sick and nothing’s as easier to monetise than desperation. Big, rich, private heathcare companies have donated millions to the Conservative party and now they’re calling in the debt. Jeremy Hunt is killing the NHS so that his owners can bleed you dry.
I don’t believe the NHS is perfect or that it doesn’t need to change. I have known people have terrible times and feel completely betrayed by it. Sad, but true. However, the vast majority of those who use it are delighted. The NHS is composed of incredible human beings whose capacity to care is a combination of vocation, education and genuine kindness. Of course some of them screw up from time to time – sometimes with tragic results – but that’s because they’re human beings. Fallible human beings. And if you employ over a million of them, (as the NHS does), mistakes will be made. The NHS is imperfect, yes, but it’s still totally kick-ass.
It’s also the most cost effective health care system in the world. For every pound spent on the NHS, it returns a value of five times that to the economy. And we need to stop taking it for granted and tell the shower of outright bastards that are stealing it from us to back off. It’s ours, not theirs.
http://rufushound.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/david-and-jeremy-want-your-kids-to-die-unless-youre-rich/
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You should set up some sort of early warning system as part of your think-tank.
stowpirate
skinflintish camera nut
Rufus Hound has got my support on the NHS - possibly if he was a local candidate I would vote for him. There may also be a tad of truth in Cameron wanting certain parts of society eliminated? Speculation really, meaning, deep down in his inner psyche he may dream about groups like the Unite Union members, their children, family and friends being high on any list?
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
Right, let's deal with this then:
1. I didn't quote " a bit of your post" - I quoted the entire first post of yours from the "Is Cameron A Socialist?..." thread.
2. Your "seem" and "Or is it a mask" thing - I read up on the thread in question, and came across this post of yours (post #119):
Let's take here your quote "Now, when you consider that Maggie would class Cameron as Dripping Wet, the Libertarian Socialist theme does become very plausible. Cameron has lurched the Conservatives a fair way Left regardless." As subsequent events have shown since the Conversative/Lib Dem coalition came into power, Cameron has done nothing "socialist" of the sort - he's a post-Thatcherite neo-liberalist, who in fact has gone further than Thatcher in some respects (e.g the welfare state, education, the NHS, the Royal Mail). And as for his "libertariansim", he's a solid Tory right-winger (so your "....has lurched the Conservatives a fair way Left regardless" comment is fundamentally inaccurate) who has no interest in "freeing people from the State" - quite the opposite, in fact (see "endless regulation", for starters). So your analysis on this one is inaccurate, I'm afraid...and you seem to lean towards actually saying that Cameron is a "libertarian Socialist", so your "seem" and "Or is it a mask" do not qualify here.
And as for your Tory manifesto quote, well, the Coalition has done the exact opposite to everything you've quoted from them there (do I really need to go into the details of this one? They've all been discussed here many, many times already), so no, your current reliance on that one as "proof" really doesn't stand up to scrutiny either. And for the record, the only time I read a even a bit of the Tory manifesto (at college), I wanted to beat myself round the head with a blunt object....and besides, does one really have to read a manifesto (never a reliable document at the very best of times) to suss out what a political group in power is really up to?
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, could be some kind of horrible hybrid between panel show pointlessness and the worlds of the people's assembly and laurie penny. Same time, the OP has got it entirely wrong, doing this isn't something that makes Hound worse as a human being.
Never mind that. WHat do you think about his stance? Are you on the whole, in agreement with his anger at what's happening to the NHS?
Ole
Well-Known Member
Hahahaha. That's a fucking belter.
Puddy_Tat
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I've known that about cameron for some time...
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